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[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You know, Spain and the entire EU has been going on real hard about Taiwan lately, maybe they should address things like... Catalonia.

Or the UK with Northern Ireland.

Or the US with Hawai'i, oh but it's only the Indigenous Hawaiians that want independence so who cares. Same with Alaska, go and ask any Inuit community if they like being an oil state or not. Actually, ask any Indigenous people in the US if they like being in the US. Same with Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

Call it whataboutism all you want, but I'm one of those weird people who think that there's something to be said about if you accuse another country of human rights abuses, whether they're true or not, maybe you shouldn't do the exact same thing. It's kind of like you're accusing someone of killing people while jamming a knife into someone else's chest, is that whataboutism?

Hint, both Taiwan and HK are much more independent from Mainland China than Catalonia, Northern Ireland, Hawai'i, or Alaska, or any Indigenous nation, from their respective ruling countries.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm like.. All for regions having legitimate referendums? As a fellow Canadian, do you recall when Quebec had their fair vote?

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah? And if it had gotten majority leave vote do you seriously think the Canadian government would have actually acted upon it? Did Harper look like the kind of guy to just say "well, if this is what you want, you're a grown up province now! Go out there and see the world!"

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes? I know you were young when it happened but Quebec was extremely close to becoming its own country

[–] facebita@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Peoples != regions. China is an imperialistic and terroristic state/regime as well as Russia. Both are ignoring fundamental principals of human rights and hide their true face by lies in words of so called »international law« and »UN principals«.

[–] wintermute@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Are you serious, comparing Catalonia & Northern Irelands history & political situation to Taiwan??