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Hamas accepts cease-fire proposal for Gaza after Israel orders Rafah evacuation ahead of attack (apnews.com)

submitted 6 months ago by hedge to c/news

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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I brought up the roof knocking because it's what Israel does aswell as dropping leaflets and sending text messages and making phone calls before the strikes. This goes against all the accusations about genocide and intentionally targeting civilians. It would be quite cynical to think that this all is just a cover up so that they can continue with their plan of murdering every single Palestinian. I'm just not buying that. The high number of civilians in that area are a huge inconvenience for Israel and killing them is extremely bad PR. They know this and Hamas knows it aswell.

For the high number of civilians killed I think the most simple explanation is also the most likely to be true; it's urban warwafe on a country with extremely tiny land area and a population of millions. You could blindly drop a bomb quite literally anywhere there and you're likely to hit someone. This is what war looks like.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

No, it's really not necessarily what it looks like at all, though you could be forgiven for thinking it. I think perhaps this is the difference between those who focus on this issue because they're interested in Israel, versus those who focus on it mainly because they're interested in human rights.

You could blindly drop a bomb quite literally anywhere

Blindly dropping bombs on densely populated areas is a war crime.

Yes, killing this many people this fast is a consequence of the choices the IDF is making. No, they are not inevitable choices.

For instance, in its entire war against Islamic State the US dropped just one 2,000lb bomb. Israel is dropping hundreds of them.

Roof knocking and leaflets are a fig leaf - a fiction with the aim of avoiding international condemnation, a bit like the peculiar interpretations of "occupying force" and international law we see from them.

I've seen footage of those leaflets raining down on innocent people in Gaza, the panic and despair. It's not humanitarian at all. Ironically some of the people best equipped to get away in time are Hamas fighters, which is probably why the IDF uses "Where's Daddy" to kill suspected Hamas leaders when they are at home.

continue with their plan

Israeli politicians and public figures have been pretty clear in their national discourse about what their plans are. I don't think we need to speculate further than that.