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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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holy shit, it's Ready Player One for race scientists

He was giving knight errant, organ-meat eater, Byronic hero, Haplogroup Rlb. She was giving damsel in distress, pill-popper pixie dream girl, Haplogroup K. He was in his fall of Rome era. She was serving sixth and final mass extinction event realness. His face was a marble statue. Her face was an anime waifu. They scrolled into each other. If they could have, they would have blushed, pink pixels on a screen. Monkey covering eyes emoji. Anime nosebleed GIF. Henlo frend. hiii.

Here's The Cut puff piece on Levy which just mentions in passing her podcast with Curtis Yarvin.

anyway, nice to know they're still trying to make Dimes Square a thing

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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What is, and I mean this with all sincerity of my heart, any of this fucking bullshit?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

searches Dimes Square, wikipedia

Dimes Square is a so-called "microneighborhood" of New York City, located between the Chinatown and Lower East Side neighborhoods of Manhattan.

Okay, sure

The term Dimes Square has become a metonym for a number of associated reactionary aesthetic movements centered in the area, particularly several events and podcasts funded by Peter Thiel.

Why do we continue on this Earth even though it's clearly a doomed endeavour?

Media associated with the area include the podcast Red Scare

click

The show has been associated with the dirtbag left and the new right,

"New right" redirects to "Right-wing populism" and I would like anyone to explain to me how is the same old reactionary nonsense "new" in any way. In any case, how the fuck is it possible to be associated with anti-fascists and fascists at the same time?

as well as the subculture surrounding Dimes Square. It has been described in The Cut as "a critique of feminism, and capitalism, from deep inside the culture they've spawned."

"Hey, how about we pick two bad things to focus on?"

"Capitalism..."

"That's a great choice, plenty of terrible stuff there..."

"... and feminism."

"... You were doing so well."

What even is this ideology? Reactionaries but with bubble tea?

[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Decoding the Gurus did an episode on this stuff. Imagine anti-vax hipsters with extreme vocal fry and self-diagnosis of autism.

Red Scare: Bohemian Hipsterism x Reactionary Tradcaths

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago

listened to this, they do a great job of breaking down the berniecrat -> orangeman pipeline, characterizing it as mainly driven by vibes and unserious thought.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This shit is intended to be ideologically confused. Its purpose is to seduce dissatisfied progressives towards fascism. See also, Grayzone, Caleb Maupin, the history of holocaust denial on the ultra left, there's plenty of flavours.

"Antisemitism is the socialism of fools" etc. On this subject I've always been a fan of this Moishe Postone article: Anti-Semitism and National Socialism

The turn to biology and the desire for a return to “natural origins,” combined with an affirmation of technology, which appear in many forms in the early twentieth century, should be understood as expressions of the antinomic fetish that gives rise to the notion that the concrete is “natural,” and which increasingly presents the socially “natural” in such a way that it is perceived in biological terms. The hypostatization of the concrete and the identification of capital with the manifest abstract underlie a form of “anticapitalism” that seeks to overcome the existing social order from a standpoint which actually remains immanent to that order. Inasmuch as that standpoint is the concrete dimension, this ideology tends to point toward a more concrete and organized form of overt capitalist social synthesis. This form of “anticapitalism,” then, only appears to be looking backward with yearning. As an expression of the capital fetish its real thrust is forward. It emerges in the transition from liberal to bureaucratic capitalism and becomes virulent in a situation of structural crisis.

This form of “anticapitalism,” then, is based on a one-sided attack on the abstract. The abstract and concrete are not seen as constituting an antinomy where the real overcoming of the abstract—of the value dimension—involves the historical overcoming of the antinomy itself as well as each of its terms. Instead there is the one-sided attack on abstract reason, abstract law, or, at another level, money and finance capital. In this sense it is antinomically complementary to liberal thought, where the domination of the abstract remains unquestioned and the distinction between positive and critical reason is not made.

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Their brains are so saturated with information that they naturally need to explore extreme viewpoints to feel stimulated.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not judging, my SneerClub attendance can be described as "exploring extreme cause I'm bored" but... Feminism is not an extreme viewpoint?

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

need to explore extreme viewpoints to feel stimulated.

maybe they should do less of whatever generated this and instead spend their time trying to solve the Lament Configuration.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 6 months ago

this is a remarkably concise assessment (of one of the obsessions?) of that group, goddamn

I've been mulling over how I wanted to reply to voldek's post and you just .... steamrolled that

“New right” redirects to “Right-wing populism” and I would like anyone to explain to me how is the same old reactionary nonsense “new” in any way. In any case, how the fuck is it possible to be associated with anti-fascists and fascists at the same time?

I’d have gone with Neue Americanische Freundschaft but it’s both too subtle and already taken