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Join or ignore the anti-meta fedi pact (fedipact.online)

submitted 1 year ago by brodokk@pawb.social to c/pawbsocial_feedback@pawb.social

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This is a bit political but i feel this should be looked at. Whatever it's on on the Lemmy instance or the Mastodon instances.

My main concern is about the concept of Embrase Extend Extinguish they could use.

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[–] Lockely@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meta's entire business model is to mine data from its users and sell that data to companies and governments. In light of this, I fully believe this project is a trojan horse being used to connect to as many servers as possible in the fediverse and cache all it's data to give them an additional vector to mine it.

Preemptively blocking will keep our data safe here, at the very least, and limit their reach across the federation. They deserve no goodwill.

[–] southernwolf@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Fediverse isn't private though. It's already indexable from the open-web, and the ActivityPub standard itself isn't designed to be private either. So Meta gains no extra information from being on The Fediverse than they do being off of it.

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The actual actions, i.e. who upvotes/downvotes what, initial posts and mod log (where removed posts live) all contain a treasure trove of data that is way easier to mine passively if you're federated versus having to scrape off an index. Some of that isn't visible outside of the federated data feed, only the final state is on the post/comment.

Why should we give any massive corporation, especially one run by Mark "I don't know why the dumbfucks trust me with their info" Zuckerberg, the easy route to mine all that?

[–] southernwolf@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's more open than you realize. I need to look into this further, but there's no reason to assume, even a bit, than anything posted here or elsewhere on the Fediverse is private. It's not supposed to be, nor was it designed to be. Also, if meta simply wanted that data, they'd setup instances and just keep quiet about it, and start following accounts across the Fediverse.

[–] Lockely@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Sure but I reiterate, why make it easy for them? What has Meta/Facebook/whatever done to deserve easy, immediate access to my data when I'm not using their services?

Over on the beehaw thread about this very subject, folks have brought up that they're ostensibly (in part) responsible for the ongoing genocide in Myanmar because they pushed anti-muslim posts through their algorithms without having any moderators that spoke the language to understand what was being boosted until after it had reached beyond a critical threshold.

They don't deserve a moment of our time, effort, or support.