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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Countries will get fed up of sending aid to Ukraine long before Russia decides to return its annexed territories. We're already seeing signs of that.

If NATO isn't willing to go in and force the Russians out themselves, I fail to see how this war is anything but a net gain for Russia. They will just sit back and let their "new territories" become more and more Russified.

To me, the aid is just a delaying tactic to allow Ukraine to continue fighting until the west can figure out a way to accept that Ukraine has lost its territories without losing face.

It's a shit show, but I don't share the optimism that a lot of people have for a Ukrainian victory. It's like a game of chess, and it's currently Ukraine/NATOs turn, because the Russians are already dug in.

[–] caveman@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine=Palestine. Noone will fight for ir and will get robbed by the powerful bandit, Israel (Rússia).

Except that US politicians pretend it's the opposite

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Ukraine=Palestine and Israel=Russia is peak Marvel brain.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Germany=Britain

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's Marvel brain? I tried looking it up but just got a bunch of marvel characters with large heads.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Idealist, cartoonish, black & white, good vs. evil thinking. Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists thinking.

Imperial core governments and the corporate media present to us a cartoonish, Marvel Cinematic Universe version of the world that serves the capitalist class’ interests, particularly their imperialist interests. Inventing Reality and Manufacturing Consent laid this out almost 40 years ago.

Ukraine=good=democracy, Russia=bad=authoritarian. Russia’s invasion was unprovoked because history began on Feb. 24, 2022. Russia is doing genocide (bullshit), never mind the previous decade of Ukraine-backed neonazis genociding the people of the Donbas; or that, for 30 years, people from Noam Chomsky to Jeffrey Sachs to Henry Kissinger warned against breaking our promise not to expand NATO eastward toward Russia. Russia is an oligarchy, never mind Ukraine’s oligarchic coup government that the US installed a decade ago. Ukraine is a democracy, never mind that it has suspended opposition parties and cancelled elections.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

Over 100k dead Russians isn't really a "net victory" regardless of territory gained