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I’m honestly super confused about what you can and can’t do when federation ties have been cut.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So here is how it works. Once you are de-federated, you can still post to existing beehaw communities, however those discussions will only be visible to other users on your own instance. Other instances will not see the discussions such as the $1.2B fish barricade article lemmy.world/c/news@beehaw.org. Look at the new posts under https://feddit.de/c/news@beehaw.org or https://lemmy.ca/c/news@beehaw.org, they are synced with Beehaw's, and the version of Beehaw news within lemmy.world is now it's own thing until re-federation. Vice versa for Beehaw to lemmyworld communities

[–] ghostalmedia 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And are those de-federated posts and comments unmoderated?

How do people prevent an instance like LW from flying completely toxic content under a "beehaw" community's flag?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might appear so, at least within Lemmyworld. From here I'm speculating, but there still is a report button. If that goes to Beehaw's mods and admins then it will be annoying for them but at least users outside of Lemmyworld won't be exposed to it. If it goes to Lemmyworld mods then they can also weed out the unscrupulous users.

[–] ghostalmedia 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like this effectively creates a community wide version of twitter's verification check removal.

Depending upon what instance you're using to view a community, you could be getting fed disinformation or hate speech and not know it. No?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not exactly, because it's not like mods are on vacation, and I don't know what incentive trolls would have to post somewhere they can't get a rise out of most people or spew their propaganda.

I do think there's got to be a more prominently displayed flag when within a community that is currently defederated.

[–] ghostalmedia 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% agree with the bottom statement. There needs to be a way to say that this is not content from beehaw.

As for modding though… since federation was severed, wouldn’t someone like a beehaw c/lgbtq_plus mod not be able to touch content that was being posted to lgbtq_plus@beehaw.org on the LW instance?

Couldn’t it just turn into a shit show of people impersonating communities within an instance?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll try to get some information on it from the admins, whether reports propagate to the hosted instance, the post's instance (and whether it still works after de-fed) or both.

In any case the lemmy.world admins should ban misbehaving and impersonating users.

[–] TheRandomNinja 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there some sort of conflict resolution that happens at re-federation? I'm curious what happens to those unsynced posts/comments.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

As far as I understand it, at the point of re-federation and discovery, posts only from then on are synced again. Previous posts during the period of defederation do not fill lemmy.world's version of the Beehaw community.