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YSK: A car takes uses about seven seconds worth of fuel to start up. If you are going to idle for a period of time longer than that, you'll save fuel by turning your engine off. (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by GatoB@lemmy.world to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

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Why YSK: People seem to, on average, think that a car takes a lot of fuel to start up. In reality, it takes on the order of a few millilitres of fuel to start an engine. That means if your car isn't equipped with an automatic start/stop system to stop your engine instead of idling, it saves fuel to turn off your engine and start it back up when you need it.

Caveat: air conditioning and radio might not work with the engine turned off.

Scenarios where this might be useful include waiting for trains to pass at rail crossings, waiting for food at drive-throughs, dropping off or picking people up on the side of the road when they need to load stuff, etc. May not be a good idea to use this while waiting at a red light because starting the engine does take time which would annoy drivers behind you when the light turns green.

Some cars are equipped with systems that will automatically stop the engine when you are idling for a while (e.g. waiting for a red light). If yours is, then manually turning off your engine will probably result in reduced fuel savings compared to just relying on the car to do it for you.

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[–] dhc02 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, they thought of that when they created start/stop systems.

In cars with these systems, the back pressure in the engine's cylinders is greatly reduced via a variety of strategies including selective alteration of valve timing and purpose-built secondary valves. What this means in effect is that the torque required to re-start the engine is a fraction of a dead cold start, and even a fraction of a normal warm start. This should serve to minimize additional destructive wear on components.

In effect, well-designed start-stop systems do not create any additional wear on vital engine components versus the engine running for that same period of time.

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

The difference in wear might be too small to measure, but what we can measure is how much fuel it saves. And that's usually less than 50l over the lifespan of a vehicle. Those systems don't even offset their own cost unless you spend all day at railroad crossings.

They are there for two reasons: Getting better results in unrealistic tests and decreasing the amount of control that owners have over their vehicles.