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“I will no longer be complicit in genocide [in Gaza]. I am about to engage in an extreme act of protest,” the man apparently said before setting himself alight and repeatedly shouting “Free Palestine!”

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[–] tree@lemmy.zip 127 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

It's a bit of a beleaguered point, but it's very telling that this will assuredly get almost no coverage on big news networks like abc, cbs, fox, etc. and virtually no coverage in the larger papers like the NYT, sure the press agencies like Reuters and the AP will cover it and then redistributors like your source will publish this, but little thought among the media class/commentariet will be given to the man who decided there was so little hope of being able to do anything through legal/electoral means to stop a genocide that he could no longer stand idly by and had to do something to protest the sheer inhumanity of what's going on. Barely anyone probably still remembers the person who did the same thing and died in 2022 on earth day protesting inaction on climate change/destruction, that story was absolutely buried. I don't support any kind of self harm, but doing something as drastic as this requires a pretty compelling reason, most people remember Tibetan monks doing the same thing, but the same importance was not extended to that person in 2022 and will almost definitely not be extended to this person now. I may end up being wrong, but I expect this to be out of the news cycle/discourse in days at most.

[–] sab@kbin.social 73 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I was listening to BBC World Report this morning. They made quick mention of it along with some other things happening in the conflict, then went on to introduce their "expert" who would illuminate the situation.

Their so called expert was an employee of some Israeli institute of security or whatever, and he talked on for ages with minimal push-back about how the israeli army is doing everything by the book and how "Gaza is safe for civilians, and if it's not it's the fault of Hamas".

That was all the coverage they did.

What a fucking joke.

[–] GammaGames 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If anyone would like a bit of an overview about the conflict I found Shaun’s Palestine video interesting (and infuriating). I also thought Shattered Dreams of Peace by Frontline was informative on the further background

(putting it here because the parent is about misinformation and lies)

[–] Dex@sopuli.xyz 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 49 points 10 months ago

"gee why did he set himself on fire? must just be something people do"

it's laughable how US media attributes self-immolation in Tibet to what must be CPC oppression, but self-immolation in the US must just be a cute little coincidence due to poor mental health

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you managed so thoroughly to miss the point I was making, I'm impressed

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You made an objective point, then a subjective one.

The objective one: "it's very telling that this will assuredly get almost no coverage on big news networks like abc, cbs, fox, etc." They addressed the objective one with their links.

The subjective one cannot be addressed yet, as it's so soon after the event. You will probably end up correct that this event will not visibly persist, but you can't know for sure, time will tell.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

fact check! deboonked!

[–] Ooops@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't confuse people whose whole narrative is build on some conspiracy of media suppression with facts.

I guess skipping the term "Lügenpresse" to avoid the obvious link was deemed enough progress to keep that same 100 years old tactic alive...

[–] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 10 months ago

They said almost no and virtually no coverege. It's not anti-semitic to point out that western media is heavily skewed towards Israel. You're completely delusional if you think that's not the case.

Obviously there were going to be articles about the man who set himself on fire just as there was for the person who did it in 2022 due to the climate crisis. The point is the attention the media places on WHY it happens that is being ignored or heavily downplayed.

[–] Lath@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Few people will remember him, but if any are spurred into action by his act, then it won't be a completely wasteful loss of life.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, I've seen some discourse that things like this when done by an individual as opposed to a group effort like the Tibetan monks are primarily to take their own life and the message is secondary/additional, but I would like to think that on some level something positive will come out of someone doing something as drastic and sad as this. Dying or taking your own life is not something positive or to be glorified, but when someone feels so hopeless to the point that they turn to this, I hope it's at least a wake up call for some people to take this seriously and not just ignore/tune out one of the biggest genocides in recent history.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

most people remember Tibetan monks doing the same thing

Out of political selfimmolations there were 7 Tibetan cases, but dozens of others including many Americans. I wonder why "most people" remember particularly those. Would it be that US media wasn't fair to report not only this one here?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was on a cover of a rage against the machine album.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago

Lmao that's what i was talking about, the one on this album cover wasn't even Tibetan, he was Thích Quảng Đức, a Vietnamese buddhist monk, selfimmolating in Saigon in 1963 as protest against US-backed South Vietnam government persecuting buddhists.
So why people like you think he was Tibetan if not for media misleading you? This was literally the most famous of public selfimmolation and the one that started it all for in XX century.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Yes, my first thought was, "Crikey! Has anyone in the united states self -immolated, before?!"

It's a horrific way to call attention to a cause. I'm sure after his best possible recovery, his military unit will rally to prosecute to add to his anguish.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

@Maeve i
He died. It's actually not as uncommon as you'd think.

Quite a few US Americans in this list of political self immolations.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Honestly, the megacorps will only allow this on main TV when pushing regulation against protesting.

Like, "think of how many innocent ~~moneys~~ lives we would save if we shoot protesters'.

[–] MindlessZ@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get so tired of this talking point. New York times, Washington Post, and even Fox news each have an article (or multiple) on this event.

[–] tree@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

OMG THEY HAVE AN ARTICLE OMG THAT WAS TOTALLY MY POINT, I QUITE LITERALLY TALKED ABOUT REDISTRIBUTING THINGS FROM PRESS AGENCIES JFC, HOW CAN YOU READ WHAT I WROTE AND GET TO THIS, IS THERE ANYTHING RESIDING IN BETWEEN YOUR EARS ???

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] tree@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

God, an unironic "you mad bro" go back to reddit lmao