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Are you enjoying Palworld? (lemmynsfw.com)

submitted 9 months ago by ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com to c/gaming

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Sorry if this is redundant, I didn't see another thread focused on reactions to the game itself (just the Pokemon-ripoff news cycle).

I tried it on GamePass thinking, why not - might as well see how overhyped it is. And unexpectedly, I put in about 8 hours this weekend.

Despite some rough edges and some very clear inspiration, I am actually enjoying it. It has a very satisfying gameplay feedback loop and is an overdue (if involuntary) "modernization" of the basic monster-collector format.

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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've got a feeling that the legal issues, even if they're in the clear, are going to pose a lot of problems for the longevity of the game. But, I'm really hopeful that this sparks inspiration for other devs to take on the monster collecting genre. Pokemon has dominated that space for so long that they practically define the genre at this point, so it'll be nice to see new monster collectors come out with their own unique styles.

[–] Butterbee 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So far Pocketpair has been VERY careful about actually infringing on copyright or trademarks. People smarter than I am are pretty certain that if Nintendo or the Pokemon Company could take legal action against the game as it is, they would have already. The important things to note are that you cannot copyright an art style and you cannot copyright or patent game mechanics. And even if things were touch and go, the gameplay loop of adding survival elements and an emphasis on cooperative guild base management is pretty transformative compared to Pokemon games. So as long as they avoid adding pals that are so close to their Pokemon counterparts that they don't pass the squint test they will be alright.

[–] Moira_Mayhem 5 points 9 months ago

Agreed, all of the 'drama' surrounding this possible copyright case is largely created by youtubers and tiktokers for views.

That said, Nintendo WILL probably sue but as a formality to protect their brand, and will gracefully pay Pocket Pair's legal fees as a cost of business once the court rules in Pocket Pair's favor to keep their copyrights from lapsing to generic use. It's not uncommon.

Not doing that is how Bayer lost the copyright for 'Asprin' in the U.S.

Now if a ton of people refer to Pals as Pokemon the same way people refer to all tissues as Kleenex, THEN they might legitimately run the risk of losing their copyright and will pursue aggressively but I don't see that happening.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While all of that appears to be true, that doesn't mean Nintendo/TPC aren't able to make this small studio's lives a nightmare if they wanted. I have a feeling that the level of scrutiny the studio will be under from now on is going to inhibit any real innovation, as they're already walking a very fine line as it is.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

It's also worth noting that they're both Japanese companies, and Japan has different views on IP than the rest of the world. I don't really know enough to go into detail, but it's entirely possible something a company from the US could laugh off is enough to get action taken in Japan.

[–] Moira_Mayhem 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There is no legal issue, Nintendo is suing as a formality to protect their existing copyrights. They'll be ruled against and shrug their shoulders and pay Pocket Pair's legal fees because that is a much better business decision than risking losing their copyright to their existing creatures.

If they don't aggressively protect their copyright, the JCO might just rule that they have become generic and common use like how Bayer lost the trademarked name 'Asprin' in the U.S. when it was considered common use and Bayer did not pursue it aggressively.

But that doesn't make good youtube poop or memes so you probably think this is some kind of hotly contested hullabaloo because of where you are getting your info from.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Trademarks can become genericized if you don't actively defend them.

[–] Chozo@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is no legal issue

Nintendo is suing

I mean, it's right there.

Also, you're thinking of trademark. Might be a good idea to know the difference before calling somebody else's opinion "hullabaloo".

[–] Moira_Mayhem 1 points 9 months ago

I don't think you understand. They can't win the case but if they don't bring it, they might lose their brand.

Pocket Pair is not violating even Japan's strictest interpretation of copyright infringement.