That's behaviour that's just part of language design. If you rely on it you should probably check how the language you're using handles it.
relying on that behaviour sounds a lot like "clever" (read unnecessarily unreadable) code

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you serious? It's one of the most basic and common if statements that exist.

If( foo != null && foo.isBar() )

That's what we're talking about. Looking before you leap.

I take issue with the whole "too clever" argument fundamentally (for a number of reasons), but this isn't some fancy quality of life feature. This is as simple as it gets

[–] noli@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-circuit_evaluation

Yes I am serious.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Scroll on down to the first common example there champ.

If you really think that's being "too clever" I don't know what to tell you... A big reason I think that argument is bullshit is because writing simple code isn't a goal (what does that even mean?) - readability is a big one, and breaking up every part of every conditional would just lead to unreadable spaghetti

Also, take a look at the languages being discussed. This is a long settled question - every language I've ever used has this.

Including VB, I found out it uses AndAlso...so gross

[–] noli@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

several languages that are still in use have eager evaluation.
I'm a dumb programmer. The more I need to keep implicit behaviour in mind, the higher the probability I'm writing bugs. Short circuit evaluation is an optimization technique IMO and shouldn't be relied upon for control flow.
The aggressive tone you're using is completely unnecessary and immature, so I'll refrain from responding any further. Have a nice day.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago

You're the one who started this by criticizing my knowledge and my coding practices, in response to me sharing one very specific example of why I believe VB is a bad language

I held off because I thought you must've misread it and we'd laugh and maybe talk about language design... But no, you confirmed you just came at me with a bad take extremely dismissively

If you want respect, try showing it.