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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Use a password manager. Every account gets a different (and strong) password.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Obviously any reputable password manager is better than none at all, but I strongly recommend using KeepassXC on the desktop and a suitable mobile client for phones and tablets, and syncing the database across devices with an encrypted peer to peer sync tool like Synching.

I've always been nervous about being part of a large, juicy cloud hosted target, and LastPass was the proof that those concerns are well-founded.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 15 points 10 months ago

Yep. If you've got the technical knowledge and a server, self hosting Bitwarden is quite easy. And your vault is end to end encrypted.

[–] esaru 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

KeepassDX for mobile is on F-Droid and can use the same file as accessed from KeepassXC from Laptop, synced by Syncthing.

[–] zaphod@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

I can also recommend Keepass2Android, which I've been using for years.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

All cool and dandy, until you have to type that random 50 letter string on your TV.

[–] falsemirror 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Many PW managers let you generate passphrases, which are all around better than random strings. Length is the most important factor so

finance-caffeine-utopia-redress-unseen

Is way stronger and easier to remember (and type) than

Fl7$j4FWw)&5O

[–] Myaa 3 points 10 months ago

Huh, TIL. I had no idea that was an option but that's super useful for things I need to type in on a device with no keyboard, or even things I can't access my password manager for. Thanks for the protip there!

[–] esaru 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And pass phrases are faster to type and with less typos even though they need more characters than passwords to be the same secure.

[–] Murkhat@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is it really safer? I mean when trying to bruteforce a password, one would have to make a guess whether it's a passphrase or not. But if you decided to check for pass phrases, wouldn't the one you posted be cracked in 5 times the amount of words in that dictionary? I'm not sure how large the vocabularies of the generators are, but I would guess a random 17 char password might be safer than a 5 phrases password?

[–] Scary_le_Poo 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

but I would guess a random 17 char password might be safer than a 5 phrases password

And you would be very wrong about that. A 5 phrase password has entropy. "finance-caffeine-utopia-redress-unseen" is 28 characters. If you add in a different symbol between the words and add a number somewhere, this password becomes incredibly difficult to brute force.

I'll let xkcd explain it better.

[–] Murkhat@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Youre right,different separators, numbers and even capital letters change my theory alot

[–] Areldyb 1 points 9 months ago

It'd be dictionary length to the fifth power, not times five.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You don't need to make it that long.

And also most TVs or whatever you're streaming with has a way to type from your phone nowadays. Apple TV, Chromecast, Android TV, heck I think even Xbox.

It's kinda nice on Apple TV your phone will suggest autofill passwords for the TV, even from theirs party password managers like Bitwarden.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Android tv's arent that old. 10 years max. 5 years since it's affordable for most people. Is it unreasonable to own a 5 year old non-smart tv? I think not. I think it's weird that so many people assume everyone owns a smart tv.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

In what scenario would you need to type in a password on a non-smart TV though? Parental lock?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're not wrong but in what context would you be putting in passwords on a non-smart device

Also it's not just smart TVs. You can hook up streaming sticks and boxes and game consoles to anything with an HDMI port

I had to do that recently, ended up being easier to just temporarily change the password to something short on a pc, then change it back after.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Additionally, I use simplelogin so they also gotta match unique passwords with my unique emails and then get past 2fa.