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Valve: Most games made with AI tools are now welcome on Steam (arstechnica.com)

submitted 10 months ago by jherazob to c/gaming

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[–] Crotaro 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Reading the entire article, it seems that they still want to tread very carefully with this whole AI ordeal. Valve isn't just opening the floodgates, as the title would make it seem.

While yes, a healthy dose of skepticism is good to have, I think if I had to trust someone to navigate AI in gaming in the gamers' favour, I would pick Valve. Or maybe I'm overestimating Gabe's involvement in the happenings of the legal department's section that is currently responsible for AI stuff.

EDIT: Shame on me, @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone , I think I had already seen the PMG video about the Steam Marketplace and its lootboxes and the gambling sites. But because I neither play these titles nor participate in the marketplace, I forgot that these serious issues exist. And the documentary concerning actually working at Valve rocked my stance back and forth. On one hand, I love the concept, but there are big problems here as well.

Once more, a genuine thank you for pointing me at these two video documentaries, even if I had already seen one of them.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hey, thank you for taking the time to watch those and take a critical look at your opinions about Valve. I really appreciate you taking it onboard even if I wasn’t the most polite in my initial comment.

I do agree with the system itself having a lot of appealing aspects. I think if it were created with a critical eye focused on eliminating privilege and elevating diversity, that it could be an amazing place to work. But it’s clear the people in positions of power believe ‘diversity’ is a solved issue thanks to ‘pure meritocracy’. The only way to deal with privilege and inequality, in my opinion, is to face it head on and deconstruct the incumbent systems that allow it to exist.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I seriously don’t understand how people can still hold Valve up as this paragon of virtue, defender of gamers everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMmNy11Mn7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9aCwCKgkLo

[–] Crotaro 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, People Make Games have not one but two vids on Valve? I never noticed that, thanks. I'll watch them after work and possibly (because PMG really are good at the whole journalising stuff) change my stance on it.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, you know, holders of virtual monopolies are well known for being benficient paragons of prosocial goodness. At least, whenever their owners are known by their screen names and they produced a beloved product once, a quarter century ago.

[–] Crotaro 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That last half-sentence really isn't in good faith. Just in the past couple years Valve made three "beloved products" that come to my mind immediately. Valve Index (the VR set), SteamDeck (the handheld PC) and the Steam Controller (although that one could be a bit older than "just in the past couple years").