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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

PEMDAS

Parenthesis, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, subtraction.

The rule is much older than me and they taught it in school. Nothing ambiguous about it, homie. The phone app is fucked up. Calculator nailed it.

[–] hallettj 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The comment from subignition explains that the phone's answer, 16, is what you get by strictly following PEMDAS: the rule is that multiplication and division have the same precedence, and you evaluate them from left-to-right.

The calculator uses a different convention where either multiplication has higher priority than division, or where "implicit" multiplication has higher priority (where there is no multiply sign between adjacent expressions).

[–] I_am_10_squirrels 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But explicit multiplication is part of the parenthesis, so still comes before division or exponent

[–] hallettj 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The parentheses step only covers expressions inside parentheses. That's 2 + 2 in this case. The times-2 part is outside the parentheses so it's evaluated in a different step.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

The parentheses step only covers expressions inside parentheses

No, it doesn't

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

16, is what you get by strictly following PEMDAS

except 1 is what you get from strictly following PEMDAS. If you got 16 then you missed one of more rules.

the rule is that multiplication and division have the same precedence, and you evaluate them from left-to-right

Go back and read your link again. You'll find they're obeying The Distributive Law. i.e. solve all brackets first, from inner-most out.

“implicit” multiplication

There's no such thing as implicit multiplication

[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i know about pemdas and also my brother in christ half the people in the comments are saying the phone app is right lmao

edit: my first answer was 16