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This was something I started wondering about when I was reading a thread about Star Citizen, and about how space combat flight games were much less-common than they had been at one point, how fans of the genre were hungry for new entrants.

Looking at this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_flight_simulation_games#Space_combat_games

...there really were far more games in the genre being released in the late 1990s and early 2000s than there have been recently.

A similar sort of phenomenon occurred for World War II first-person shooters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_video_games

Back around the same time period, there was a glut of games in the genre, and they really have fallen off quite a bit.

Whether it's a genre like these two, that hasn't seen many new entrants recently, or a genre that just never grew as much as you'd like, what genre would you like to see more of?

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[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

When I saw your title, space combat games are immediately what came to mind.

I adored the space operas that were FreeSpace and FreeSpace 2 (VIP Volition). I would love for something along those lines. Add in a little bit more management, some rpg/progression elements, even pilot/FPS sections, and it's dream game for me. It's one of the reasons I was so excited (and let down by) Star Citizen.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think about No Man's Sky after its redemption arc and Everspace 1+2?

[–] fuzzywolf23 1 points 1 year ago

Not the guy you were replying to, but Everspace 1 and 2 are both great, arcade-y space shooters. I like 1 better than 2, but I've played both a bunch

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not dead as a genre, but I was in a conversation the other day on the Fediverse -- don't remember whether it was this community or not -- trying to figure out what happened to the space combat genre. One guess was that it was just a really good match for the hardware limitations of the time. In space, there often isn't a lot of stuff near you, so you can get away with making 3D games that don't have to render all that many objects. And they were popular in the early days of 3D hardware, around the late 1990s and early 2000s. So maybe some of it was that developers would have done other genres, but that hardware limitations pushed more towards space combat.

I think that some of it has to do with a sort of societal interest in space. In the 1950s and successive decades, humanity entering space was very new, was a completely new frontier -- maybe a frontier that no life form out there has ever crossed the barrier on. People liked theorizing about what society in space would look like, and so you had schools of architecture that alluded to it, comic books and novels about it, and then later movies about it, and later video games about it. But maybe space just isn't as novel any more, is part of ordinary life. The video game genre tended not to be hard-realism, but adopted conventions from movies and TV series, like slowly-moving visible laser pulses that make a distinctive, synthesized sound, ship orientation changing ship direction of travel, objects like nebulas based on false-color NASA images, audible explosions, and such, so I think that those were maybe important in building interest. I don't think that there have really been recent new entrants in movie and TV series that inspired the video games -- Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, stuff like that had their heyday in the past too.