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Charles Q. Brown Jr., chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the Chinese leader would 'try to use other ways to do this.”

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[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well, there have been a lot of war games that currently show China losing but by a small margin. It's likely that in less than a decade China would win by a small margin. According to many US generals.

So while your wrong, China almost certainly could take Taiwan in less than a decade, I would argue that there's no chance in hell they would do it. Winning by a small margin here means millions if deaths if not nuclear war. This would be massacre that would make both Israel and Russia's violence look down right peaceful.

And it's not like China hasn't shown it's hand in what it would do. War is not China's goal, a blockade is.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are those games weighing Taiwan's defense capabilities versus China alone? In practice China would be up against the USA, and Korea, and Japan, and the Philippines and a plausible economic and logistics alliance of most countries in the region. I am not a military strategist but the sheer numbers alone are not in favor of China, and that is ignoring the tactical challenges at play.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It includes allies. This is because of the tyranny of distance. US simply cannot power project enough to take on China with Taiwan alone.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/09/politics/taiwan-invasion-war-game-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

But these war games are actually biased towards USA. Pentagon's own war games have China winning already.

https://news.yahoo.com/were-going-to-lose-fast-us-air-force-held-a-war-game-that-started-with-a-chinese-biological-attack-170003936.html

So if we believe the US military, then China can already win. Though many argue US military says this just to get more funding.

I would err on the side of US just barely winning with all allies.

That said, I do not believe China would invade. It makes no sense. Anyone who claims this is could happen should have their credibility questioned. As China as I said already has shown its hand, it will blockade if it comes to it.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

With the way the economy is going there, I can't imagine that we can expect that China will remain as it is now in a few decades. The entire thing is ready to come tumbling down at any moment.