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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah their take seems to ignore the fact that there's other options than just drop a bomb on the school

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

ceasefire begin talks with the other Palestinian government that isnt Hamas

You can take the power away from Hamas by taking away palestinian people's reason to be angry. But as it stands, Hamas is literally the Gazan government.

[–] MustrumR@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Genuine question - What would the realistic solution be?

I'm by no means absolving Israel. The voices of their government alone show that they don't even try to prevent civilian casualties. But of the top of my head I don't exactly see a solution. For example putting a foot on the ground would provoke their neighbors. They can't just ignore Hamas either.

[–] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel funded Hamas and their policies basically created them. They're an easier target for westernes than the secular PLO. Maybe the solution is ending apartheid and the illegal occupation? Maybe, and I know this is really crazy but, bombing the shit out of a group of people isn't going to lead to less retaliation?

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The PLO wanted to remove Israel from existence for most of the time it was in power, it's not like they were saints either.

[–] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never said they were saints?

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But you very strongly implied it, stating the PLO is palatable.

[–] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said they were secular? They are more palatable then Hamas in the wests eyes. I don't think that is controversial even.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They weren't even that, they wanted all of the Jewish immigrants gone, and the whole Palestine region returned to Palestinians. That's not secular.

[–] onkyo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I think you need to look up the word secular. It means not religious

[–] jasory@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

"putting a foot on the ground"

You mean a ground invasion? Which they've already started. The bombing is just to minimise Israeli casualities.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago

A one state solution that results in the dissolution of the state of Israel entirely and the creation of a new state where Arabs aren’t held as second class citizens, where both groups live under the same laws and are prosecuted in the same Justice system.