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Latest article I could find is this one: https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-plans-to-abolish-clock-changes-6024800-Mar2023/

I know the EU can be a bit slow, but the vote was held in 2019, seems like enough time elapsed since then.

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[โ€“] taladar@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It clearly seems like something designed by people who get up at 04:00 and are asleep by 20:00.

[โ€“] Jajcus@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was, but also we have the same time in most EU, so at the west or east extremities either winter or summer time is quite wrong (or even both). Synchronized time is handy for international relations, though.

[โ€“] taladar@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly, just give me one time for everything world-wide and then have - gasp - people get up at different times. It would make things so much easier.

[โ€“] fristislurper@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Aweful idea: do you want to plan a meeting at 16:00 with colleagues in the US? It is very hard to tell if this makes sense without timezones. Is this in their working day? Or the equivalent of midnight? Or something else? There are no timezones, so there is no way of telling without looking at some shady website how many hours you are shifted - which is basically the concept of timezones anyway, but shittier.

[โ€“] Caaaaarrrrlll@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

without looking at some shady website

On Gnome and on Windows you can add multiple clocks so when you click the time it shows the differences.

[โ€“] fristislurper@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But not if there are no timezones! Probably someone would find a way to display the shift anyway, but this is basically the old timezone system again, but without a (more-or-less) universal standard.

[โ€“] taladar@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

The universal standard right now is UTC and pretty much any program or other application that is serious about time uses it and only converts to the broken timezone system on display.

[โ€“] taladar@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I regularly do have to work with and also have friends in other time zones. Despite doing so for the better part of two decades and not being bad at mental maths most of the calculations involved, especially with DST at different start and end dates, are a total headache. It would be much easier to have a list of "person x is available from global time y to z" data and check where that overlaps. Not to mention all the issues around "meeting at the same time every week" when "the same time" has no meaning between two time zones with different DST.

[โ€“] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn't the whole of China have like one single time zone and they do exactly this?

[โ€“] fristislurper@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

In China the vast vast majority of people live in a single timezone at the coast, so this is not really comparable.

[โ€“] tryptaminev@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this just shifts the problem around though. so instead of debating when 8am and everyone getting to work is relative to the suns cycle you have to figure out which time should be getting to work time. But it still faces the same problems: Different people have different biological clocks and we were not made to deal with people being a thousamd kilometres or more away regularly.

[โ€“] taladar@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

But you have that problem even in the same office. Some start at 7 and leave at 3, others start at 9 and work until 5, some work half of the day only, others are in meetings. Why screw with the clock and inconvenience literally everyone even for the simple task of figuring out what is the same time, what is earlier and what is later just to not really solve anything?

[โ€“] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US have several timezones, seems okay for them

[โ€“] taladar@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Mainly it is just Arizona that is totally weird there with its nested levels of 'no DST/DST' (7 levels deep I think).