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[–] Kraiden@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this a fair argument in 2023 with all the options for wireless headphones/buds? I feel like it still sucks because you can't use your dollar store wired sets, but there are enough cheap raycon clones out now that it's hardly a guaranteed secondary sale at this point.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

because you can’t use your dollar store wired sets, but there are enough cheap raycon clones out now that it’s hardly a guaranteed secondary sale at this point.

It's more about not being able to use existing high-end headphones and IEMs. It's wasteful and expensive to replace those.

There are workarounds of course, but it's never as nice as having a real headphone jack to work with.

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already have a good set of headphones. I don't want to buy new ones or adapters, especially when I can just buy a device that they can plug straight into

[–] Kraiden@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look, I do understand, and it took me a while to buy into the wireless buds thing, but you could have made the same argument for PS/2 mouse and keyboards, or anything using mini, and then later, micro USB.

The fact is, if you want to keep your old peripherals, but upgrade your main compute device, at some point you need to accept that you'll need an adapter.

The 3.5mm jack was first introduced in the 1950s as a mini version of the 6.5mm jack... which was used as far back as 1878... it's had a hell of a run, but if you weigh the pros and cons fairly, wireless as a standard has drawbacks, but is actually, ultimately an upgrade and it's well overdue.

I just think there are enough wireless options (and adapters) available now that it's not fair to knock fairphone for this decision anymore.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My main issue with all of this is that I'm not interested in maintaining a charge for yet another wireless device.

I'm a frequent flier for work. My wired noise cancelling headphones run on a single AAA battery for 14+ hours straight. I can buy a small pack of AAA batteries at the airport in 30 seconds and get 60 hours of listening time. I don't have to worry about putting them back in their carrying/charger case. I don't have to worry about charging that case. If they go flat and I don't have a spare AAA battery (the case actually has a convenient hole for a spare AAA), they still work, albeit with a noisier background. And they plug into in flight entertainment system headphone sockets. Haven't seen a Bluetooth option on IFE systems yet.

Would I want to go jogging with my wired headphones? No. I do have a pair of bose wireless earbuds, and they're nice. But every time I think about using them, they are flat in their charging case. I don't want to have to keep the charging case on charge soooooo for 90 percent of my usage , the wired ones it is.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My noise-canceling, Bluetooth headphones in 2004 ran for 2 days, no problem (back when I was flying for work all the time).

"Another thing to charge" is a strawman. They all use C or micro today, and headphones use so little power your laptop can easily charge them. Or even your phone.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Another thing to charge" is a strawman.

They are not functional for the time it takes to get a useful charge into them. I'll just pause that movie and pop my buds back into their charging case for a while, it's so convenient. So, like I said, you have to maintain their charge, alongside the other devices that have to have their charge maintained.

A lot of it has to do with BLE running constantly in the background (things like find my buds, "easy connect" features with their own management app tend to use it). If you fly like, once a week , and have a headset for flying, you need to check on its charge, as BLE will slowly grind it down to nothing while it sits in your travel bag.

My noise-canceling, Bluetooth headphones in 2004 ran for 2 days, no problem (back when I was flying for work all the time).

What brand were they? I bought my current set of Bose corded noise cancelling headphones in 2015 precisely because battery life in Bluetooth products was still reasonably abysmal. I'm guessing that they were one of the very first sets to come out, seeing that regular consumer Bluetooth headphones only appeared on the market in 2003.