UK Politics
General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both !uk_politics@feddit.uk and !unitedkingdom@feddit.uk .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.
Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.
Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.
If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)
Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.
Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.
!ukpolitics@lemm.ee appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(
view the rest of the comments
How does money get "off shore" in the first place?
Can't they implement stupid taxes on any money leaving the country? Like 25-50% or something?
As I understand it (and conceding that my knowledge is somewhat limited - I have a background in accountancy but all my clients were SME's, who don't use these schemes) it's done through a combination of limited companies, shell companies, and trusts. The assets all get moved around in such a way that the super wealthy technically don't own their own stuff anymore. They just own the company that owns the company that owns the assets, with one or more of the companies being registered in a tax haven rather than the UK, so that UK taxes don't apply.
A decent government with sufficient backbone to stand up to the wealthy would close down loopholes like that, ensuring the assets are taxed when they "leave" the UK or taxing the owners regardless of whether they use a tax haven or not. It won't happen, because neither of the main parties have the courage to stand up to the super rich.
I would love to see someone grow a spine and ban that overseas cop out. Shareholder companies should owning property should pay a tax rated at its value. It is used too much just to dodge tax and inheritances.
I would love to see that too! I'd also like to see capital gains and dividends taxes equalised with income tax - although these taxes were intended to encourage investment, the actual effect has been for the wealthy to essentially claim their income they get from working is actually capital gains or dividends, thus paying less tax. Plus there's not a lot of evidence that lower taxes on dividends and capital gains boosts investment anyway.
We had money controls in the 70s but it basically led to poor inward investment and expats waiting for a change of government before coming back to the UK. Why move capital into a country you're not sure you can take it out afterwards.