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I can see a lot of people moving to Lemmy, just because the other alternative that's popping off (Tildes) is a far more serious discussion-driven site.
Yeah from what I've seen, migrating to tildes is a bit like migrating to hackernews. In theory it's a Reddit clone, but the purpose of the site is so different from how Reddit has been used that it's not really a substitute.
Doesn’t Tildes also need an invite? So it’s less likely to have a mass migration.
It does require an invite, although us over at Beehaw moved over from Tildes.
What motivated the move, was Tildes the place overtaken by Rationalists?
TL;DR: yes
Oh snap so that “other platform” mentioned in that post is Tildes? Veeeeery good to know. Thank you.
That was an interesting read. This is a shot in the dark but was this community related to less-wrong (and HPMOR tangentially)? That's the only other place I've seen where it is sort of like this.
I'm personally unfamiliar with those (had to google HPMOR actually), so maybe? Although I'm not one of the site mods, I heard no mention of these when the site was created/rising in popularity.
Ah yeah that's also what I associate with rationalism. That whole sphere of Eliezer Yudkowsky, Roko, Effective Altruism, longtermism, the wrong kind of AI doomerism, lots of in-group terms, and really liking Bayes' theorem
The last part made me lol. I really never understood how they use Bayes theorem to justify decision making in real life. Made me feel stupid for a while, but then most of the people I knew who were in the community didn't seem like really good decision makers either.
It feels like a cult at some level. With very technical jargon that a lot of people struggle to understand.
No worries :) Likely that they might be unrelated.
From what I've heard, it needs an invite right now only as they are still kinda dealing with startup issues and trying to slow the migration a little to handle it. I don't believe that's a permanent thing but I don't know for sure
Yeah I like HN but it's too niche for what this place and others are trying to be. I've used it a while but I don't think it's particularly relevant to people outside of the tech industry or at least broader STEM interest even though other things are discussed there from time to time.
As somebody who's generally interested in science and technology, HN also sufferers from terminal libertarian VC-brain. It's a club for wannabe founders of unicorn tech companies who view themselves as enlightened ubermench. This doesn't always bubble to the surface, but at times of controversy it is quite glaring. Most recently, when the founder of CashApp got murdered they were practically calling to liquidate the homeless, even though the incident - predictably - was the result of a personal dispute with somebody he knew.
Even if the subject matter scratches an itch, the community is not for me.
Wait....what?
Search up San Francisco CEO stabbing.
I did, and...wow. I don't live in the States, and don't follow the news much, but I was sure I would have heard about that....
Well it's not really that important of a news story, he was killed by someone in his personal life just like 90% of murders, but rightists wanted to use it as a reason to institute anti homeless pogroms because 'San Francisco is out of control!!!'
Yeah, right wingers being right wingers
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/02/bob-lee-tech-executive-murder-case-san-francisco
Yeah that’s a good point, I don’t love its politics either and I’m a fair bit to the left of most of its posters. I usually see it in the spirit of ‘you can entertain an idea without agreeing with it’ and trying to avoid staying in a place where people largely agree with me but you’re right a lot of the reactions to the murder were really grim and showed some unpleasant qualities in parts of the userbase.
On the other hand a lot of the less political content is really high quality there and on technical topics the signal/noise ratio is better than most places on the internet. I guess any site with user generated content will always be a case of ‘how much crap do I want to sift through to find a diamond?’ and a lot of the ways HN is bad can be equally applied to a lot of Reddit as well in my opinion. It’s definitely not everyone’s cup of tea though and that’s fair enough.
Edit: spelling (do we do that here?)
Kbin is interesting too. I'm using it now. Nice UI and federates with Lemmy, of course
Excuse my newness - how does one go about federating Kbin with lemmy? I like both, and I’ve figured out federating within lemmy, but getting kbin looped in is stumping me
you can subscribe to kbin's communities with your Lemmy account the same way you can subscribe to another Lemmy instance's ones.
Does this only work from a browser, or can one do it via the apps e.g. Jerboa, as well?
no idea how it works on Jerboa, it's still a bit too glitchy for my taste so I removed it for now and stick to the PWA on my phone.
PWA?
Installing a website as an app
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pwa&ia=web
using your browser, you can "install" a progressive web app. you get a shortcuts to the website on your home screen, and, at least on Firefox for Android, it opens in a window that's separate from your browser's tabs. in Lemmy's case you get notifications through it as well.
They all share an underlying protocol, ActivityPub, for sharing content between instances.
Also using Kbin, only need to get used to how everything works, and more people need to join.
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