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[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My point was that all dogs are dangerous. Selecting breeds shows total lack of understanding. It is how the dog is reared that causes the issues. Since you cannot evaluate that by looking at a dog then it makes more sense to add a safety device for all dogs.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you have any statistics on deaths by dachshund?

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, oddly enough you didn’t. Off though - you’d think if it were all to do with upbringing rather than breed, there would be at least one Dachshund-related fatality over the last 109 years.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] merridew@feddit.uk 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After investigation, it was determined that the woman in question

is believed to have been killed by her own American Bully XL

The victim's dog

was the only animal to have been destroyed, which they believe to be an American Bully XL

while

two seized dachshunds were returned to their owner.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12094705/Woman-28-mauled-death-pack-dogs-killed-American-Bully-XL.html

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seriously used the Daily Mail as a source?

[–] merridew@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Feel free to post alternative sources.

You'll struggle to find one that doesn't state the same facts: that following forensic investigation the victim's American Bully XL was destroyed, and two dachshunds were returned to their owners without issue.

[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, she was walking 8 dogs when she attacked and all the dogs were kept by the police. So, we don’t know to what extent the dachshunds were involved in her death, but if it makes you happy.

[–] merridew@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

The dachshunds were returned to their owners. The victim's dog, an American Bully XL, was destroyed.

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[–] Jabbawacky@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"how it was reared"

You lost me there. These are breeds with an inherent nature to kill and maim. They're freaks, mutants, and now thankfully to be banned.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago
[–] lemonflavoured@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

all dogs are dangerous

Okay, how many deaths are there due to Chihuahua? I will concede that it is perhaps biologically possible for them to bite off the finger of an infant, which could in theory be fatal, but the odds are pretty fucking slim.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Which is why I said above a certain weight.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

All large dogs are POTENTIALLY dangerous.

Some breeds are EXCEPTIONAL at violence once they are triggered to do so.

Training can reduce triggers (to zero?)

A poodle or golden retriever can absolutely hurt and kill, but it would be anomalous beyond expectation that a golden would continue to attack and even feed on a human.

Other breeds, once triggered, enter a state where they disengage from reason, latch, hold and tear. Depending on conditions they will even feed.