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Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky has said the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin – the Russian mercenary leader whose plane crashed weeks after he led a mutiny against Moscow’s military leadership – shows what happens when people make deals with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

As Ukraine’s counteroffensive moves into a fourth month, with only modest gains to show so far, Zelensky told CNN’s Fareed Zakaria he rejected suggestions it was time to negotiate peace with the Kremlin.

“When you want to have a compromise or a dialogue with somebody, you cannot do it with a liar,” Volodymyr Zelensky said.

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[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People really want to see more Ukrainians die, huh?

[–] dsmk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally don't want anyone to die, but it's not like Ukraine asked Russia to invade them, steal their land and kill their people.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't want anyone to die, but that's effectively what this is calling for.

But hey, it's just Slavs killing Slavs, right?

[–] dsmk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not Ukrainian, so it's not my place to tell them to just bend over and take it. If they want to continue fighting, then it's their right and I support their position.

I'm also not sure if a compromise is possible when the positions of both sides are so far apart. Ukraine thinks they can win, Russia still thinks they're the 2nd best army in the world and that all is going well, so even if you trust Putin or Russia (which you shouldn't, see the 2nd Chechen War), I'm not sure how both sides can agree on a middle ground. There are still too many cards to be played before we reach that point.

Those who truly worry about human life should keep in mind that if it's too easy for aggressors to start wars, they'll keep doing it because it works. Do nothing, appease the aggressors, and you might end up with even more dead people.

But hey, it’s just Slavs killing Slavs, right?

All I see is Russia invading another country (2014 and then again in 2022) and bringing war, death, and destruction to a land that had its problems but was fairly peaceful. Them being "slavs" matters little here.