this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2023
40 points (100.0% liked)

World News

22059 readers
10 users here now

Breaking news from around the world.

News that is American but has an international facet may also be posted here.


Guidelines for submissions:

These guidelines will be enforced on a know-it-when-I-see-it basis.


For US News, see the US News community.


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Subito 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your reaction confuses me. Do you think you can just walk in to any country in the world as you please?

[–] lysy@szmer.info 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. Why should I be bothered about some artificial borders?

[–] Subito 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's an interesting take... The border might be "artificial" in terms of land, but in terms of culture and quality of life I think your opinion is a bit.... extreme. Like, if you had to personally host an economic migrant from a very poor country I don't think your resolve would hold. It's one of those things that sounds nice on paper but really isn't once implemented.

Consider, for example, that countries on opposite ends of the of the political spectrum and economy agree that they must have control over their borders to some extent. Either to keep people in or to keep people out. Do you honestly believe that communism, democracy, or [insert your preferred system here] can work if you allow millions of people who hate it into your country? Your opinion does not seem compatible with a functional society.

[–] lysy@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago

Like, if you had to personally host an economic migrant from a very poor country I don’t think your resolve would hold.
It's your assumption, I've hosted two people from a very poor country (Ukraine), not for too long (3 months) but we had no issues. But it's just one, my case, anegdotic fact. Also, I personally know many refugees, I've helped some to get through the border, who were determined to find new life in a new place and they succeeded. However I know and have that in mind, that not everybody acclimatize and some need really wide and huuuuge spectrum of help and guidance

Also, we have to finally understand that global climate changes will make tens of millions people to move from their, already unhabitable areas. Whatever numbers of people moved already, it's nothing compared to the near future. We have to be prepared for it, but not with guns, bullets and walls. We have to prepare them, to export knowledge, education, culture, financial help to poor countries to that there won't be that huge schock for both us and them during upcoming migrations.

And yes, I don't care bout artificial borders. Even biblical (other religions for sure speak the same) Natural Law talks about it. Nature doesn't belong to any person. Land doesn't belong to any person.

[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was just my honest reaction, lol. But since you asked, no I don't think that, but I do think a wall is goofy.

[–] Subito 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What alternative would you suggest then? They have people taking advantage of the fact that isn't a physical barrier there. Once it's there they will definitely have less illegal immigration. What other method is there?

[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me clarify, I don’t think you can just walk into any country, but I do think you should be able too.

[–] Subito 1 points 1 year ago

My mistake, that is true, lol