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[–] upstream 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don’t like the DisplayPort connector.

Apparently an unpopular opinion, but hey. It’s mine, and I’ll keep it.

[–] upstream 2 points 1 year ago

Go to your local electronics store and see if that is true when you want a cable “today”.

There’s a difference between theory and practice.

Different countries and regions may have better markets for DP cables, but I can’t recall having had options other than length.

[–] upstream 3 points 1 year ago

YMMV, obviously.

Locking DP is a pain in the ass for me. HDMI disconnecting was never an issue either.

I just wish I had a choice, but in practice I don’t as selection of cables is poor.

I never screwed in VGA or DVI connectors either.

Personally I prefer the plug falling out instead of the connector and/or cable getting damaged if you pull on it.

[–] upstream 3 points 1 year ago

Never said DP wasn’t a better standard. Or that HDMI was better because of being ubiquitous.

It’s certainly not keyed better than HDMI, that’s just ridiculous. If you ever had a laptop with Display Port, or see people interact with one, you would notice that it’s too similar to USB, e-sata (which has become mostly irrelevant, if not even fully), and HDMI.

On top of that it’s difficult to feel if it’s the wrong way round. Easy to see, difficult to feel.

DisplayPort is in practice not available as a non-locking connector, but keying and the locking connector makes it worse.

While, sure, someone makes money off of HDMI, it’s not an argument for popularity.

I never agreed with the facts of your comment, but I think you are using poor arguments to make an invalid point.

I’m not arguing for HDMI either, btw. I’m just attempting to predict the future.

[–] upstream 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know, and commented on it (just not explicitly).

The irony is still there though.

And for many years it was an actual limitation of the USB interface as well. Only with USB 3, which didn’t see widespread adoption until 2009-2010 did USB surpass FireWire 400 speeds. And let’s not forget there was FireWire 800 as well.

[–] upstream 2 points 1 year ago

Same here, actually.

[–] upstream 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

But (most of that) that’s the display port standard, not the plug.

DisplayPort over USB-C works mostly fine, except that it’s “fine”, not perfect. Daisy chaining tends to make it less fine.

It’s a better standard, but a worse plug. Important distinction.

That doesn’t matter in the long run though. Better doesn’t always win.

Just look at how USB won over FireWire. And FireWire could daisy chain too

My iPhone 13 Pro syncs slower over USB than my second generation iPod did over FireWire.

While I obviously can’t blame that fully on USB, it’s an ironic observation, especially since my OG iPod would be 21 years old now, if it still worked.

[–] upstream 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can, but they’re hard to come by where I live at least. I have two, but they’re Mini DP to DP. So haven’t gotten to use them since I was running my 970 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We also have 10-30 cables of each of the usual lengths in the IT supply room at the office, and they all have the same mechanism, no matter what manufacturer was chosen during purchasing.

And then, once in a while, you come across a screen where the port is rotated 180 degrees so the push is between the plug and the back of the screen and you basically need child labor to unplug it in proper manner.

[–] upstream 34 points 1 year ago (35 children)

I used to think DisplayPort was the future, about 10-13 years ago.

By now I feel it has come and gone.

HDMI 2.1+ is making its way in everywhere.

  • It’s a better plug.
  • It tends to support enough pixels/Hz for most people.
  • It’s more ubiquitous, being on both TV’s laptops, and monitors.

Pretty sure the PC desktop segment will keep the port alive for a while, but right now it doesn’t seem like a very useful port apart from having a plug that claws itself in place and is often unnecessarily hard to unplug.

With Ultra High Speed HDMI (these names are ridiculous, seriously, look at the standard names) there’s very few, if any, reasons to use DP, apart from compliant HDMI cables costing an arm and a leg.

To be honest I’m struggling a bit to understand why it’s not just all pushed through a CAT6/7 Ethernet cable at this point.

[–] upstream 7 points 1 year ago

Haven’t run across a laptop that couldn’t since before 2010…

[–] upstream 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like other people might have been better off if you left her there (minus her neighbor) 🙈

[–] upstream 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think you are optimistic about communicating with the worst percentile of drivers, but can’t argue with your reasoning

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