Urnchos

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[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Beaut of a show today. Cole/MJF at All In, while historically not a match I'd have had much interest watching in that slot, works perfectly given the story they're going for. I suppose this means that we'll have CM Punk's off-brand world title being a separate entity longer than All-In, which is perfectly good, that story's got some legs on it for sure. I've had an inkling this eventually ends with Cole betraying MJF and validating everything he's always felt about not trusting people, which is a compelling story, but the concept of them actually staying friends after and proving to MJF that there's good in the world is equally compelling, could be fun.

So happy for Shida, she deserves a run in front of fans and the division needs a shake-up. I wasn't sure whether they'd be willing to do it tonight so it was a pleasant surprise.

Swerve getting the promo we've all been waiting for him to get. A true mega-heel promo that makes him look legit as hell. This is how you start getting his character to the levels we've all wanted him to get to.

And a win for Trent? Over Moxley/Penta? That's a heck of a win, glad for him.

The first bits of All In hype levels are starting to set in, and that's good.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Wonderful news! They're the heart and soul of the company and it would be a gigantic hit to lose them at this stage of their career and AEW's lifecycle.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crazy good show this week. MJF and Adam Cole are obviously the highlight, and not much to say there that hasn't already been covered. Best storyline they've got right now by a country mile.

The CM Punk stuff is interesting, I'm a fan of any belt defacing and/or duplicate belt angle, so this is right up my alley. Pleased to see they're finally making strides toward All In.

The ladder match was crazy, they put it all out there and created a hell of a fun match.

The upcoming dynamite card is weirdly un-exciting for a special dynamite 200 in my opinion, outside of Storm/Shida which should be a banger. But sometimes the best shows are the ones with the least exciting cards.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm here, I just don't watch shows live personally so I pop in for the post-show comments

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found this week's to be a bit of a step below the last stretch. They've been on a real hot streak though lately so a down week one of these days was sure to come. With all of The Elite getting the week off though and them holding significant MJF/Cole developments for Saturday this was bound to happen. The in-ring action was really good though, as always. Swerve/Darby is such a good pairing that you can never complain about a Wednesday when you get to see them do what they do.

That sign about the Women's division says it all though regarding them. I can't help but wonder what the root cause here is, is it a WBD thing by any chance or just a Tony thing? You've heard scattered reports over the years about how WBD does have an influence on who gets screentime and whatnot and in ROH you're seeing a much better booked women's division. I can't help but wonder if it's a WBD directive to limit their minutes due to historically lower ratings for their segments and to focus primarily on the marketable women like Britt/Jade/etc which is hurting the division at large.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Now that Pac is about to become remembered by gravity, Andrade will fill the role as The Man Announcers Forgot

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I'd second this, provided they're interested in the role. They've been doing a wonderful job kick-starting activity into the magazine and taking the reigns in getting all the threads started, much better of a job than I could dream of doing.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think most everyone else has covered my thoughts, what with the rules as they stand being pretty good.

I'll echo the sentiment of a meme Thursday or something being a good way to fill the gap on a day where there aren't any prominent shows going on.

 

So, I've found myself observing an interesting situation recently. I don't know if any of this is interesting to folks or just ramblings, but I figure in a community which could use more content there could be some interesting bits and pieces in there.

Backstory: I went to the Dynamite/Rampage show last week in Edmonton and my Fiance' came along since somebody else dropped out last minute. She's never watched wrestling before outside of 30 seconds here and there when I'm watching. To my surprise, she's become hooked on wrestling and has been watching every show with me since.

I figure since people on the internet are always particularly interested in discussing a promotion's 'casual appeal', but it's always hard to actually gauge what a truly casual fan would enjoy due to our perspective of being engrossed in the product so deeply, it might be interesting to hear what's particularly interesting and not interesting to somebody who is well and truly going into this blind.

Her favorite storyline: She's been absolutely all over the MJF/Adam Cole story - I think it's accessible since you can tell the dynamic without any context. A reluctant bromance where hilarity ensues - I've found that the comedy angles, in general, hit the right beats and capture her attention whereas other areas of the show more reliant on background knowledge start to lose her attention.

Favorite wrestlers: She's a big fan of Darby Allin, Adam Cole/MJF, Orange Cassidy, and Ruby Soho so far. I think the common thread here is these are all the people who have a really distinctive look or presentation. She always talks about how she thinks Darby's entrance is the coolest thing ever.

Biggest surprise: Double J is a hit - I believe the quote is "Why is this old man so entertaining, he has no right being that good" when we were at the show

Other random insights:

  • She's more interested in the matches themselves than I expected a new fan to be - I always pictured lots of the angles would be where you hook people and the matches are where you keep them, but the crazy moves are seemingly what particularly draws her interest in the first place and the storylines are a bit of an afterthought
  • Building on the note above that it seems comedy-related storylines hit well here, she's very into the Jack Perry recurring storyline of him running from Hook. I find that interesting given how cold of a reception his first promo got from the more hardcore fans online
  • Elite/BCC is doing absolutely nothing for her - not a huge surprise since the last 2 weeks of it hasn't had much in the way of huge explanations on their history and has just been lots of run-ins. I believe the quote I got last night was "wait, so why is Kenny Omega your favorite wrestler again?"
  • I was a bit surprised at how quickly a brand new person picks up everyone's 'shtick' for the most part. You really don't need any long-term context to have fun going along with the Acclaimed doing what they do or hating Don Callis for fun.
  • Not a surprise here, but as a women she's way more interested in womens matches and I can definitely see how AEW is missing out by only having the one women's segment each week.
  • Physique and 'believability' and whatnot of a wrestler doesn't matter to her whatsoever. You often see people on the internet talk about how you might lose casuals if you have little guys getting wins over bigger guys because it stops being believable. I don't think she noticed or cared about a big beefy guy once outside of being shocked at how tall Big Bill is.
  • Video packages seem real good for helping with a new fan. Just getting 2 weeks of pretty simple but effective packages about Nick Wayne made her super excited to watch his match. They did a great job at filling her in as to why we should cheer for him and why he's one to watch for the future

Takeaways: Not sure there's anything we didn't specifically already know - mostly that AEW can lose the casual viewers when they over-rely on the audience already knowing what's going on for things and they might be leaving some long-term viewers on the table by not focusing enough on women's wrestling. I suppose the extent to which comedy-related angles and gimmicks are over with her interested me. It's no surprise they open the show almost every week with Orange Cassidy - his entire shtick is extremely digestible with little to no context.

If you have any other questions about things that didn't get touched on that you're curious about what a brand new fan thought of it, feel free to ask away.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Fun show! Not a whole lot comes to mind to note outside of wanting to point out that Nick Wayne had a great showing and they've done a wonderful job hyping up his debut. Kid's got an incredible future ahead of him for sure.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I've found that the encounter builder is usually fine, but I would spend lots of extra time setting up encounters using it only to find that the things I plucked haphazardly were only about, say, 20% less balanced on average.

At the end of the day it became a question on if it was worth it to run every encounter through that for being only marginally better than just grabbing and going. For some, they have the time to spare and it is worth it, and that's perfectly great! For myself I found that the extra variance just made things interesting and that 20% extra imbalance could be made up by the odd sneaky adjustment on the fly if I was ridiculously off base in where I expected the fight to end up in difficulty.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I found long ago that trying to balance my 5E encounters in any way, shape, or form is just a hopeless endeavor.

I just throw things at my party and kind of let 'er rip. Some end up hard, some end up easy, after a while you get a general gist for what they tend to be able to handle.

[โ€“] Urnchos@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Solid show! Like a couple others were saying, I agree that it's really great to have Dynamite and Collision having such distinct styles. It really helps keep you excited for both.

Solid in ring action tonight. Jay White is everything he was advertised to be and more so far.

 

Just curious on what everyone's high-level thoughts are on how they're feeling on AEW's current path/decisions/roster/etc. now that we've had a taste on how they're going to go forward in this new situation of two 'primary' shows.

It's seeming like there won't be too much of a 'brand split' in the traditional sense, what with Acclaimed and Punk both being implied to be at Dynamite this Wednesday, so I'm curious as to how they handle things in that regard going forward, whether there will be relatively stable rosters for each that just tend to be on each show and some crossovers, or if it will be entirely freeball with the shows just filling up more haphazardly.

All things considered, personally I'm a fan of the structure that comes with a more hardline brand split, and how it forces shows to make more space for the lowercard just by necessity, so I was a bit sad to see it doesn't appear to be going that way, but I'm hopeful they can go an interesting direction with things under the current arrangement.

 

I don't have a fancy post with all the match results and everything like SquaredCircle normally gets - just figured someone might as well toss a thread together for this.

Thoughts on tonight's show?

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