OccultIconoclast

Well we're not on .ml right now, so I'm fine with arguing

Jumping to the conclusion that if I don't like you personally, I must hate all leftists. It was mean.

I know you by reputation. You act like this all the time. It doesn't matter if you're provoked. You do it because you know the mods won't punish you for it.

Is that not a bit hypocritical, when you claim to be upset at me for implying you aren’t a Leftist?

Sure it is. We're both hypocrites. We both know it's wrong to accuse fellow leftists of not being leftists, and we both did it anyway.

If you don’t want to call that being pro-Dem

I sure don't. America uses First Past The Post. The mathematics of the FPTP system are better represented by the idea of voting against than voting for. Voting for democrats doesn't support them, but it opposes Trump. Abstaining is a refusal to oppose Trump. Telling other people not to oppose Trump is supporting Trump. Telling other people to oppose Trump isn't supporting Democrats.

You've had this argument a million times and you never learned anything. That's why I think you're a troll and a sealion. Your intention is to waste other people's time. You like to argue. You like the challenge, the conflict, the thrill. The process is more enjoyable and more important to you than the end result. Changing your mind would take away your ability to engage in the same process, because then you wouldn't have the advantage of everyone you argue with being banned from .ml communities, giving you a symbolic victory and letting you feel proud that you're a good debater. You want to dominate your opponent from within the rules of the game. It's not about the future, it's about the game. It's a sport to you.

Okay, fair. I'm fine with having been banned. You should have been banned too.

If you don't want people to call you a Trump supporter, you should try not calling people liberals when they argue we should vote against Trump. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

I wasn't being pro-dem, and you should give other people the benefit of the doubt. Someone having a problem with your ML talking points doesn't mean they aren't a leftist. You and the other .ml regulars pull this shit constantly. I've seen y'all do it a hundred times. You are mean and exclusionary to anyone who disagrees with you about the election, and then you cry foul when it's done back to you, so clearly you know it's not nice behaviour.

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Right, so we both agree someone who says "I'm not a man or a woman, I'm a cat" is nonbinary. So why force queer people to live in reality when they say it hurts them? Sadism?

Okay, I'll tell you what I assumed when you said that.

You think all catgender people are the gender they were assigned at birth. Male to cat? That's a man. Female to cat? That's a woman.

This is a logical deduction. You said catgender people aren't queer. That means they can't be trans, and can't be nonbinary. This is the consequence of you saying that.

And I am begging you to take it back and allow catgender people to identify as nonbinary.

Okay, so if someone says their gender is cat, you're saying they're not queer. Fine, which non queer identity do they have? For argument's sake, let's say they prefer cat/cats pronouns and object to being he/himed or she/hered. How are they not queer? Make a specific claim please.

Well I think people are bad at reading.