Joncash2

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[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

That doesn't really work. For example, driving is the same action. I do this action over and over again. However, I drive to vastly different destinations. I'm not in fact doing the same thing over and over even though the same action is being done.

Similarly an algorithm will give vastly different results based on the inputs I give it. Saying it's the same formula with different inputs would be very incorrect.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah this is a bad meme. The whole point of machine learning is to do minutely different things over millions of generations to see differences and their effects. It's the exact opposite of doing the same thing and expecting different results. Machine learning is the summation of millions of differences.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wow this article is a masterpiece of propaganda and disinformation. It doesn't mention anything about the fact that some of those arrested have literal backgrounds working for the CIA. Then it claims that China is getting less foreign investment by saying the NET inflow and outflow is only 33 Billion dollars. Here's the thing, China has been investing heavily in foreign countries like Mexico and Vietnam. So much so that Chinese factories in Mexico are shipping more to USA than China which has recently made Mexico USA's largest exporter.

So, by obfuscating information, they're claiming China is getting less FDI, but wait:

https://www.reuters.com/markets/german-investment-china-rises-new-record-high-2024-02-14/

Germany is having record high investments in China, what's going on?

Well it's easy, they're trying to claim net not total. If I used to make 50 from inflow last year and now make 100 this year but now I'm also spending 80 my "net" went from 100 to 20. I LOST 60%!!!!

Like I said, effective way to obfuscate the data. Love it

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

Well tell that to your government. They are not saying that. And until most of the UN agrees with that, Taiwan can't be considered a country.

In fact, as a Taiwanese person, I'd prefer it if people like yourself didn't just say platitudes like Taiwan is a country and then do literally nothing in your votes to make that happen. You disappoint me.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I talked about that. This is how China is keeping the messaging consistent. Again, according to most states in the UN, they want a 2 state solution for Palestine. That's why China's pushing an armed resistance solution for the Palestinians.

Also, according to most states in the UN, they agree upon a 1 state solution for China and Taiwan. That's why China's pushing for an armed resistance solution against the Taiwanese occupiers.

It doesn't matter what states say internally or want internally. The whole point is consistency of message from the Chinese. Which is armed resistance is acceptable for occupations. Thus, no "oh what if it turned around on China?" It's consistent messaging, there's no turning around.

NOW what you're arguing is that the people don't feel that way. Which means the west isn't following it's own "rule of law". The problem with your argument is it makes clear that China is the one agreeing and following the UN rulings and the west is bending the "rules of law". This is also why China cares so much about what they're "hearing" as you stated and doesn't really care about what they say internally. Which seems petty to you, but means China is actually obeying rule of law and the west is not.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

The problem with your comparison with Taiwan is Taiwan is an island that is part of China but is currently controlled by an occupying force. This is agreed upon by almost all nations except for 12, the US also agrees on this btw.

What the west is saying is that regardless of this, China does not have the right to an armed resistance against Taiwan even though they consider it part of China. They even agreed to arm Taiwan to prevent this attack from happening.

So in terms of their statement on Palestine, this is actually consistent. The Palestinians have a right to kick out their occupiers, much like China has the right to kick out Taiwan's occupiers.

You view it differently, but as I stated before almost all members of the UN agree Taiwan is part of China.

*Edit: On a personal level I don't actually agree with this. I don't want an invasion of Taiwan. I'm merely pointing out the "gotcha" you tried to set up doesn't actually make sense. Instead it's actually quite consistent with China's position on Taiwan.

*Edit 2: This is also why China seems petty and runs around making sure all nations that trade with China state there's only one China. That's what the whole Lithuania thing was about. China is stating if the majority of the UN believes in a 2 party solution, then the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. Since the majority of UN believes in a 1 party solution for Taiwan, then it's the Taiwanese who are the occupiers and China has a right to defend itself.

*Edit 3: Ironically, the same cannot be said for China's consistency on the SCS. If you wanted a "gotcha" then China's claim to the SCS is absurd. But that said, they never said it was OK for them to be in an armed conflict over that. So I guess take that how you will.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yup, most of the world has gendered clothing. But this is China, where for decades they rejected that. Their school uniforms still rejects gendered clothing.

https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/chinese-school-uniforms-korean-students-jealous/

It's only relatively recently come back from Western fashion.

They're literally trying to fight against what your talking about to such a degree that even your normal concept of gendered clothing is different. And I know that's hard to wrap your head around, but that's exactly why I'm saying, it's not exactly what you think.

*Edit: Let's look at this from another angle. China has been trying to enforce gender neutral ideas for some time, like gender neutral clothing. All this push for gender equality has lead China to become the home to the most female billionaires in the world.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/wu-yajun-china-has-two-thirds-of-worlds-self-made-women-billionaires-meet-the-richest-8296901.html

The Chinese government is 25% female.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/239113/sshare-of-women-in-chinese-national-parliament/

So it's in China's position that while not great now, by constantly pushing gender neutral laws and trying to prevent sex being displayed in public, they'll create equality.

As you point out though, that often leads to oppression and other terrible side effects.

I'm saying, I do not believe i personally understand the situation enough to make a judgement call. I just want people to be aware of what's actually happening and not that it's some kind of governmental anti-LGBTQ+ push. It's China trying to be China for better or worse.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but they are applying it equally. They are banning all mentions of sex, not just queer sex. They are censoring anything that shows too much skin, not just queer dressing. This is why I pointed out them censoring a video game made for kids. Basically they said a leotard was too revealing.

The problem isn't the enforcement. The problem is the reporting. As society there reports against the LGBTQ more than other ones. Again, that's not the government doing anything unequal or targeting. Which is why I said it's not exactly an LGBTQ issue. It becomes one because of the older conservatives.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Again it's not about LGBTQ. It's anything to do with dressing different or talking about sex. That's why boy love films are so popular in China. They dress them in fancy traditional garb and have sexual tension but no kissing or sex. Hell some of them got so popular they got onto Netflix.

Here's the main Chinese propaganda mouth piece promoting it.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1168331.shtml

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Everyone is getting prosecuted equally so no it's not an LGBTQ issue anymore than breathing is an LGBTQ issue.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I've already talked about it. When China doesn't know what to do they censor everyone. But there are still gay bars and gay pride has gone into dance clubs.

Heres a guide on where to go.

https://www.travelgay.com/beijing-gay-bars-and-clubs

Heck, they censored one of their most popular videos games genshin impact because it was too sexy. They censor straight sex too. In fact you could argue if they didn't censor gay pride it would be preferential treatment.

Hell your quote literally says it.

Chinese Communist party’s broader crackdown on civil society and freedom of expression.

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Yes I did. Here's a few quotes from that article.

While China has a law against domestic violence, it fails to adequately protect victims, especially LGBTQ+ people, say advocates, with crimes often dismissed as family affairs

And

Li Tingting (left) and Teresa at their wedding reception in Beijing, China, July 2015. Li, 25, a prominent rights activist announced their marriage in an effort to push for LGBTQ rights in China

As well as it gives several examples of abusive families who manipulate the law to attack those who help their children. Like the trans woman who tried to protect the run away trans woman.

I said it's not good. But it's not the government pushing this. It straight says so in the article in the quotes I'm posting.

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