Fraction9869

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[–] Fraction9869@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Whoa bud, there’s a heap of nuance here and accusing someone of misusing stats rather than presenting under a different context doesn’t help anyone.

If we only count full time workers we are ignoring under employed, volunteers, people whose circumstances prevent them from working full time. All these people can provide a benefit to society, whether it’s raising family, caring for elderly, volunteering at their local sports club or men’s shed, etc.. Your position seems to be saying their value to society is zero. I would put it to you that you that your way of representing the stats doesn’t reflect the nation as a whole.

Another question to ask when counting the rate of income increase is also where the poverty line comes into it. If you say poverty line is $30K (I haven’t looked this up) then $50K income is only $20 on making your life better, and $230K is still $200k, so we are back to 10x on income to improve your life.

[–] Fraction9869@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair point, I was talking about the PM’s pay. The idea that a federal politician’s value (pay is literally the way to compare your perceived value to society) is even over 4 times more than half of your countrymen is an interesting thought to reckon with.

Based on the determination, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's salary will increase from $564,356 to $586,930, and Opposition Leader Peter Dutton's salary will increase from $401,561 to $417,623.

MPs will have a base pay of $225,742, up from $217,060 — though they can receive additional pay depending on whether they hold a ministry or shadow ministry, chair a committee, or act as speakers or party whips.

[–] Fraction9869@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The median personal income is less than $50K when you take into account unemployed and retired and other income streams, so it’s closer to 10X of the median Australian.

I suspect you are talking about the median Jobs in Australia rather than Personal Income in Australia.

Honestly I’d rather see politician remuneration indexed to minimum wage. I suspect tying the wealth of the decision makers to the minimum wage might actually make a difference to the average Australian.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/labour/earnings-and-working-conditions

[–] Fraction9869@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm with you on this but I doubt the incentives are there for the agents to chase up the owner / strata company for these plans.

Have you tried searching for the same address in the buy section of realestate.com.au? There are a lot of properties that have recently sold that still have images from when it was sold which includes a floor plan.

[–] Fraction9869@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s something a lot of my family members suspected in AB for a while. His movements are really similar to the way my Dad’s disease progressed.

Good on him for making it public. It’s a hard thing to talk about and seeing your heroes be open about it goes a long way in normalising the conversation with your own friends and family affected by it.