AgreeableLandscape

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In case you had any doubt that the GOPigs aren't disgusting.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/273939

Last minute news! 2 British and 1 moroccan mercenaries who were captured in Mariupol by DPR forces as they were fighting with ukrainian forces (including the nazi Azov Battallion), have just been sentenced to DEATH, for mercenarism and attempting to illegally seize power in the DPR, by the Supreme Court of the Donetsk Peoples Republic, in Donetsk. We are waiting for more details.

UPDATE: The 2 british mercenaries are Aiden Aslin and Shaun Pinner. Both exmembers of the british army, Aiden had fought in Syria against ISIS and the Assad government with the Rojava kurds (the YPG), while Shaun had fought in Northern Ireland during the troubles (fighting against the IRA) and in Bosnia during the imperialist invasion, both times as an official british soldier, while Aiden fought both in Syria and Ukraine as a mercenary. So yeah, 2 imperialist pigs.

Aiden also had a Twitter account that constantly spread russophobia and bragged about killing russians. Aiden claims (he started claiming this only after he was captured by the DPR) his twitter account was stolen by a friend while he was on the frontlines in Mariupol and that he didnt post that stuff. Truth be told, its true that his twitter account "CossackGundi" is still posting, so its clear that, at least since his capture, someone else has accessed and used his account. I leave it up to you to decide whether you believe him or not. No information until now on the moroccan guy.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/265367

And now on Tuesday, Interfax, Politico, The Wall Street Journal, and others are reporting that Lyudmyla Denisova has been fired – precisely for floating and perpetuating fantastical claims of mass rape but without providing evidence…

However, a bunch of eager NGOs in Ukraine, hoping for fresh ‘western’ money for new ‘rape consultation and recovery’ projects, tried to find real rape cases. They were disappointed when they found that there was no evidence that any rape had taken place

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I made another comment about that.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As for the first part of your comment, no. Being in the official military of a country is not a crime or entering into a criminal conspiracy, so if a soldier goes rogue and decides to do something they shouldn't, that's only on them. However, if a commanding officer orders a war crime, and it's carried out, then yes, everyone in the chain of command below that, and is associated with the war crime, is a war criminal. Like, say, the US pentagon ordering drone strikes on a hospital. Just trace metaphorical lines from the people that ordered it, and their subordinates, and theirs, all the way down to the people who did the actual act. Everyone that touches that tree is a war criminal. In fact, under the laws of war, soldiers have a legal duty to actively refuse any order they know to be a war crime, and it's a separate war crime to punish a soldier for refusing to commit the original war crime. "I was just following orders" is very explicitly not a defense, IIRC this was actually passed internationally after too many Nazis used that line.

Also, an official national military is a special case where most civilian laws don't apply, that's why we have military law and military courts. But the same is not said for a paramilitary organisation like the Azov.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Yes, you need to do the conspiracy, but, overt agreement is part of that. Just like a hitman simply saying "sure, I'll kill her" constitutes entering into the conspiracy, if, say, whatever initiation oath the Azov makes you recite says anything about working toward racial purity or anything like that, that would probably count. Or, if they at any point help in any way with any of the Azov's war efforts.

Remember that conspiracy law punishes all members of that conspiracy of every crime committed under it. If you and your friend rob a store, and your friend decides to shoot the cashier on their way out, even if they did not consult you, you're on the hook for murder. This video has two scenes with very Layman friendly explanations by a real lawyer of how that works in the US, and what constitutes a conspiracy in general

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Also, no, collective punishment is not a thing at least in US law. Individuals commit crimes, individuals get punishments. An individual would have to agree to commit a crime for it to be conspiracy.

https://federal-lawyer.com/criminal-law/criminal-conspiracy/

Federal conspiracy charges are broad and can apply to any individual who conspires with another individual to perpetuate a crime against the United States. Federal conspiracies are charged under 18 U.S.C. 371. An individual can be charged with a conspiracy to violate any kind of federal law.

you do not have to have committed the underlying offense to be guilty of conspiracy. Under the conspiracy laws in the United States, if you act in concert with another individual to perpetrate a crime, you can be held liable as well.

If they take any action in furtherance of any of the atrocities of the Azov, they could be on the hook for all the crimes, depending on the exact wording of the law in the DPR.

There's also abetting, which generally refers to calling for or encouraging the commission of a crime with the knowledge that it could result in the crime actually being committed. Given that, one, tons of Azovs are on record publicly calling for "racial purification", and it's common knowledge (certainly to the initiated members) that the Azov Battalion has actually committed acts toward that in the past and intends to continue, I think that would apply. Depending on the jurisdiction, aiding and abetting could well net you the same punishment as if you personally committed the crime, or some percentage of it.

None of this is legal advice BTW, but I think the vast majority of the Azov are on the hook for at least one serious offense.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Would you say being a member of the Nazi SS in Germany is also not a crime?

You might want to read up on the common legislation and legal doctrine about conspiracy and criminal groups, including the case in the West. Namely, if a group enters into an agreement (that's literally the legal term) to commit some crime, every member of the group is each guilty of every crime involved in the conspiracy, regardless if they participated in any part of the crime or not. It's why entire gangs and underground societies are prosecuted for the entire group's actions, and the Azov committed uncountable haneous crimes. Continuing to vocally identify as part of the group after finding out the commisions of crimes or future planned crimes is almost certainly considered entering into or upholding that criminal agreement.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/265016

Squirrelled in away in the article is this little gem admitting that pro Ukrainian view was never dominant, and at this point anybody who was pro Ukrainian left Donabas

Vladimir - the Ukrainian soldier - says the local population are "30% pro-Ukrainian, 30% pro-Russian and 40% don't care". Of course, many pro-Ukrainian residents have now fled.

This obviously means that any sort of insurgency the west is hoping for is a non starter, and a validation of Russian position that these regions were subjugated by Ukraine against the will of the people living there.

And this is from a Ukraine soldier so you can be pretty sure if the numbers are exaggerated, they're exaggerated for Ukraine, not Russia.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

I'm still trying to figure out what they mean lol. Russian invaders not "get" the same? The people being tried are not Russian invaders, they're members of the Azov. And the DPR is trying them, not Russia.

 
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/264644

The Ministry of Justice of the Donetsk Peoples Republic just announced that the death penalty will be on the table as a punishment for the nazis and mercenaries that will soon be put on trial for their crimes against the people of Donbass. The trial will begin soon. The nazis are being charged with crimes against humanity, genocide and mercenarism (all punishable up to the death penalty). There are 2 british citizens among them. Nazis be shitting their pants, libs be coping 🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌👌

 
[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Redditor is a state of mind. You don't necessarily have to use the site to be one.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As much as I dislike the Catholic Church and their general ideology, I'll admit this was a based moment.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

"Everyone who disagrees me is a piece of shit and is siding with tyrants, no I'm not going to actually read their arguments beyond the title."

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No it isn't. We're not trying to be like Reddit. Because if we were, why not just use Reddit? There's no reason to make an alternative to something if it's going to be the exact same.

[–] AgreeableLandscape@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can't have encryption bugs if you don't have encryption!

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