diE gRüNeN wOlLeN uNs UnSeRe aUtOs wEgNehMeN!!!

Thanks Merkel for keeping us dependent on russian gas.

And let's thank the SPD for making us depend on russian gas in the first place.

The Putin puppets (AFD, FN, Fidez,..):

1. Reject push for renewable energy (muh coal, muh diesel)
2. "Subsidies are fascist"
3. "Wah, wah, can't afford my environment destroying car/heater anymore"
4. "Thanks Obama"

I'm not familiar with German newspapers, do you have an article from another newspaper I could replace the link with?

Okay, OP already changed the link, cause I thought "since when is destatis rightwing?"

For just sitting around 18 or 16°C is way too cold.

Even in warm clothing.

I wish I could do that. Unfortunately my rented flat requires 23°C of heating to prevent mold thanks to bad windows that cannot be fixed due to the house community not wanting to pay for replacing them. And yes I'm practicing proper venting, supported with several devices for timing. I'm so glad I'll be moving out soon.

I think there are also different mentalities. Just last winter, I had a similar discussion, where someone explained to me that the room heating is meant to fully offset the temperature, so he can walk summer and winter in shorts, t-shirt and barefoot. So it's 23°C in winter.

While I'm used to wearing jogging pants and socks indoor during winter, so 18°C is fine for me.

Then again, you also have to adjust for personal preferences, different sex, different heating infrastructure etc. But 23°C to go shorts and barefoot in winter was an extreme reveal to me, that people do something like this as well.

there is studies that concluded an increased risk of getting colds, when the indoor temperature is consistently below 20 °C

If you put on some warm clothes, 18°C are absolutely fine.

Not if you're very young, very old, or have any one of an endless list of health conditions

I actually like colder temperatures, but I’ve noticed that due to the wall structure (or something) the outer walls ‘radiate’ a lot of coldness right onto my bed which is next to said wall. (Of course cold does not radiate, the opposite is true). To keep that within bounds, I’ve found it helpful to keep an awfully high room temp, around 24c.

That and there being serious building structure issues that cause a ton of mold in winter when not heating

If you have old people as neighbours above and below you'll sit at 23°C without ever turning the radiator on in the deepest winter.

I feel offended that you seem to be right, because I'm a German and I rarely heat at all.

You need to put on the heater in many homes because otherwise you will get mold. It depends on the house, of course. Doesn't matter how much you cross ventilate. :(

Yeah I was going to ask, what is proper indoor temperature for Germany anyway, like 18°C?

Surely it is your landlord that doesn't include the heating in the cost of rent who should get fucked, not your neighbour, a fellow renter who for whatever reason just managed to get a better deal than you did? Perhaps they are abusing it slightly, perhaps they have good reason, like an illness, that justifies them opening their window? Either way, only one of them has any impact on you, so why are you angry at the one that has none?

I judge people so much for being that wasteful, it makes them look stupid and selfish.