So have they released proof of the complex tunnel network and Hamas headquarters under the hospital yet?
All I've seen is a hole that looks like it goes into someone's basement and some guns they planted. π
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They know about a tunnel under the hospital because they built it.
I'm aware but tbh unless that's actually connected to a wider tunnel network it's still just a large basement.
A basement Israel built and then subsequently used as justification for war crimes. Oorah!
I'm sure once they've had time to build a "Hamas command center" they'll show us pictures to prove that their war crimes were justified.
And perhaps they also find Saddam's WMDs next to it. /s
TL;DW'es
"It's already known for many years that they have in the bunkers that originally was built by Israeli contractors underneath Shifa were used as a command post of the Hamas".
This is the main part of the quote from former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. The host of this video had already been making this claim well before, however this may be the first time in recent public statements that an Israeli politician has publicly admitted the fact. The first half of the video is excellent, after that they kind of lose focus and start talking in generalised statements (not that they're necessarily wrong, they just stop talking about specific events).
Basically 10 minutes of talking heads discussing the clip in the first video, which was already discussed for 6 minutes there. They spend the first 4 minutes leading up to actually playing the 2 minute clip, then the last 4 minutes jerking themselves off and mocking his slow speech in his 2nd language, with a dash of Trump impressionisms.
The first video is more worth watching than the 2nd, imo, but both devolve into some form of rhetoric, rather than criticising specific examples.
Talking heads belong in voodoo, not in news.
Just an FYI, OP dedicates his account to spamming anti-Israel articles from Al Jazeera.
They also post from Haartz
I did before Israel started cracking down on dissenters. Many of the journalists I've paid attention to haven't been posting much lately. Even then, Haaretz has been under fire and threat from the Israeli goverment. Luckily, there are still vocal Jewish and Israeli voices outside Israel, but they're less news and more perspectives and opinions which aren't fit to be main posts in this community. But if I do find a perspective interesting, like how Norman Finklestein relates the attitudes of Palestinians now to the Jews persecuted back in the Holocaust, then I'll find a way to leave it in the comments. :D
Yeah Israel strictly controls coverage of their war on Gaza and subjects all footage to military review. It's fucked.
Israel also cracked down on Al Jazeera, and many Israelis are now afraid of speaking out against the government and their bloodthirsty supporters.
And...?
If youβre asking, youβre either uniformed β in which case just Google it β or already set in your world bias.
no WHY do you think it is an issue to report what is israel doing right now? IN YOUR OWN WORDS.
My World Bias is pretty simple: Killing innocent people (under false pretense), killing medical personell is an atrocity, occupying land that isnt your own is bad (russo ukranian war, israel palestina war), torturing people is evil, and war crimes are bad. Hamas is evil, and so is Israel/IDF.
It's not that they're sharing reports on Israel/Gaza, it's that their account is solely dedicated to that activity. That suggests a level of organisation behind the account, as well as a bias, which is worthwhile consideration when trying to understand things objectively. They're not just some user that's posting stuff on their personal account; it isn't really grassroots, but possible astroturfing.
Also their account was created fairly recently, and around the time Hexbear was widely rejected by many instances in the federation. Lemmy.ml subsequently became a safe haven for many alts.
That isn't to say you should disregard what they're posting, it's just something to bear in mind.
But then you may want to look at the accusers account. Fairly recent (5 days) accusing OP for spamming with spammy comments. All the accuser had to do was pointing out in their own words what's wrong with sharing those reports.
Lmfao good shout. Definitely some bias on their part also, albeit I do believe they have some sort of legal background.
Their account doesn't feel so focused on an agenda, though; while there's definitely a bias and lack of impartiality, it feels like that's being applied to content they encounter, rather than trying to dictate a message for others to swallow.
Not that I really read too much into it beyond a few randomly picked comments, but they have no posts.
They're also on kbin. Bleh.
First, allow me to say that I can't help but appreciate your initial use of neutral language to ease the reader in before throwing out straight accusations as if they were fact. Sneaky sneaky, I like it.
Itβs that their account is solely dedicated to that activity.
Has it ever occured to you, that someone would want to compartmentalize different aspects of their life or belief, especially controversial ones to avoid doxxing and harassment? I'm actually genuinely surprised that a lemmy.ml user would not be conscious of just how identifying information can be over time. Even if no one piece can directly identify an individual, with enough pieces, a picture can be painted. Even the way I type or punctuate leaves a thumbprint.
It isnβt really grassroots, but possible astroturfing.
First unsubstantiated accusation. Let's goooo! Is the requirement for any action to be grassroots that I explicitly identify myself? If I go to a protest that I believe in, wearing a mask, is it no longer grassroots? If your definition of grassroots is contingent on the lack of privacy, then sure.
When you say astroturfing, are you speaking about the posts or the votes? I post because I want to share the perspectives and voices that are absent in much of the ethnocentric Western media. Honestly, I am surprised by the general positive reception that these posts have been getting, and seeing an abundance pro-human rights, pro-justice voices is a breath of fresh air.
Also their account was created fairly recently, and around the time Hexbear was widely rejected by many instances in the federation.
The one thing I don't mind sharing is that this is my initial account I made back during the great Reddit Exodus, lmao. I initially planned on using it for normal use, but then the war broke out. I saw braindead Reddit takes, and felt compelled to speak.
When I saw Lemmy.world ban archive links, be criticized for being too big and thus defeating the purpose of decentralization, and the festering brain rot infecting .world that resulted from the mass migration of Redditors, I decided to jump ship and never look back.
I am going to keep keep doing what I have been doing, not just for the users here but in hopes that some of the readers themselves will further propogate the unheard voices of the masses.