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[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But there’s no exit strategy. What changes in two months?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

A lot more dead civilians and uninhabited land for settling.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol wut? They've been at war for, what, 100 years?

[–] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ya but this time they are gonna hunt down every Hamas out there. Mossad flat out even got called out to strike Hamas leadership in Qatar even.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are you joking? The more they do that, the more terrorists they create.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 7 points 11 months ago

Sweet summer child, the more terrorists they create, the more valid their genocide and land grab appears.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's why their plan is genocide.

[–] SiriusCybernetics@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wars should be consensual. If one side doesn’t want war then that should be that. If the other pursues the world should stop ‘em. Kinda like same principle as rape. Like sex is great. Rape not so much.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What Israel is doing isn't a war, it's a genocide. They aren't targeting militants, they're targeting civilians.

Even Hamas (the eeeevillll terrorists) have done more to minimize civilian casualties, something like 80% of the people they've killed were confirmed to be soldiers, the other 20% unconfirmed but fairly likely to have been combatants as well, or at a maximum accidental crossfire.

"But Israel said-" You don't think they miiight have been projecting a little when they said Hamas was out for civilian blood...?

[–] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Really? The 1500 people that Hamas killed in the attack were 80% soldiers? Or is that stat over the last few decades of conflict?

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Seriously?

What nation goes: "Hey neighbor, you wanna kill a bunch of each other's soldiers and use a bunch of resources and pollute the earth? Maybe we can also kill some innocent babies while bombing hospitals for funsies?"

Wars are usually fought because one nation (or group) wants what the other has. If a side could get exactly what they want, there wouldn't be a war over it.

Wars are about taking: land, people, resources, revenge.

There's nothing consensual about it

[–] SiriusCybernetics@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That’s my point. My view is an international law about consent to war would be a good thing. Generally speaking, most countries deserve territorial sovereignty and shouldn’t have someone fucking around with them. I don’t think the “want what the other has” justifies wars. Corporations can do that well enough…

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 2 points 11 months ago

There are laws against breaking into people's houses, but it still happens. Just because someone proclaims something illegal doesn't mean it just stops happening. That's just not how the world works

[–] interolivary 1 points 11 months ago

This idea just begs the question of how exactly do you think international law works

[–] TotallyHuman@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This would indeed result in no more war, at all. I fail to see the problem. (Besides that it wouldn't work, of course -- but it's a nice fantasy.)