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[–] harry315@feddit.de 78 points 11 months ago (13 children)

wait, what? I've had a GIMP 2.x for at least 15 years now. they can't just... increase the number?? it's part of the program's name now

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

It's been so long that the two versions might as well be completely separate different programs at this point.

I'll probably run both when the new version is available because I've become so normalized to GIMP 2.10

It will take me another decade to get used to GIMP 3.0

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I think it's gonna be Linux 2-7 for Gimp 2-3.

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[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's kinda wild that GTK's grandpappy is now the last thing to get updated to the current GTK.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

But it's not even the current GTK version, isn't it?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

It's not even on the previous gtk

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

GTK4 was released three years ago.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I mean, most apps and themes aren't on GTK4 either.

[–] tkn@startrek.website 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't need any of the advanced tools, I just want a cleaner interface for the tools that already exist. The only thing I'm able to do is make header pics for my posts. The 2.x UI is really, really old now. The time for a refresh was a few years back, but I do understand the limitations of a small team. Like others have said, I'll likely run both and migrate to 3.x when it's stable. Though, I do like the idea of non-destructive editing :)

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Part of the focus is an updated interface.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I realize that the major point of GIMP 3 is the port to GTK3. That said, I feel like colour spaces are what people have been waiting for and probably the most significant deficiency that keeps GIMP from being treated as a professional tool.

If they are really this close, why not set the GIMP 3 release date for when colour management is ready?

Non-destructive editing will be huge as well. GIMP 3 is really going to be a crazy leap forward. It is going to be amazing to finally get access to all this work that has been walled off for decades.

The bug situation sounds terrible. Honestly though, they should just get 3 out and then make bug fixing the number one job until it gets into better shape.

Not only is it a small team but right now there are basically two different projects ( 2 and 3 ). With only one code base, perhaps the pace of progress can improve.

Hopefully the move to GTK4 is easier.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying: don't release the GTK 3 port until colour spaces are also complete? Why not give people what's ready, and then when colour spaces are ready, cut another release? No need to make people wait who don't need colour spaces.

(Additionally, it's easier to verify that bugs reported before the release of colour spaces are more likely to be related to the GTK3 port.)

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

Colour spaces are ready. They are saying I may be hard to wire it up in all the right places in a month. Why not take two months and get it in? I mean, it has been over a decade already.

Many people have been waiting for 3.x for literally half their lives. To save a month, they are going to launch 3.x with the big change being the toolkit? Seems like a wasted opportunity.

If it were going to be 6 months or more I would agree with you. From the write-up though, they delay would only be a few weeks.

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Also nondestructive editing

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 21 points 11 months ago

Make it easier to use/better UI. I don’t care for anything else

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

This is controversial but will I be able to map right click to erase or another tool/brush preset/color? It just feels wrong to keep switchimg with N and Shift+E while making pixel art.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Did they finally switch to Qt?

[–] callyral@pawb.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

why would they? gnome has primarily used gtk for a lot of time. also, what do you mean "finally"? it's not like gtk is some kind of abandonware

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I was joking. It's not abandonware, however it's an atrocious development toolkit compared to Qt.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

I really like the current UI. I guess I'll learn to like the new UI, considering the improvements that will come with it.