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Have you guys tried magit, yet? πŸ˜€

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[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My biggest beef with git is that nobody thinks that it's important enough to teach. Whenever you go through a boot camp or even a college web design program, they only spend a day or two on it max and then move on. That leaves people to learn it once they're actually involved in a project, which is...not ideal.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

College/uni is supposed to show what to learn on your own, rather than hold your hand all the way through. That is what's absolutely missing from being mentioned in any of the programmes.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I only pay tens of thousands of dollars for an impersonal impossible being to grunt and mutter phrases from a time and place so utterly absent and uncaring of human understanding that I receive nothing of value from it.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Would you like to pay tens of thousands of dollars for being taught git?! Now that's a waste of money.

You get exposed to concepts and you dig into them on your own. It's not easy, but nothing valuable in life is. And there's simply no time to spend on a fairly trivial thing such as git. Especially when you can slowly learn it on your own while working on assignments, homework, personal projects, writing a diary, etc.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Like the other commenters have said, I can be exposed to concepts anywhere.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I already know what I need to learn. You could figure that out with a web search. Just see which skills employers are asking for in job postings. Why would I go to college for that?

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess it's tough over there in US, but here in Europe it's a bit easier financially.

I had the same mindset as you. My problem was that while I could learn all those things on my own, I never did. There's something to be said about the power of having a schedule. Uni also helped me in ways I didn't know I needed help with. It's definitely worth a lot.

There must be some prodigy people who have the magical combo of focus and willpower, but the majority don't. Higher ed helps tremendously with that.

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Uni also gives you projects to work on where you can apply what you've learned within a specific context. I know if I just have a vague goal like "learn how git works", and I read through a bunch of documentation, I will retain almost none of it.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 1 points 11 months ago
[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Surely there aren’t people who think subversion was better? Better than cvs sure, better than got, nah

[–] ursakhiin 2 points 11 months ago

Generally speaking, people who prefer subversion spent a lot of time using it before got became the mainstream. It's not generally been an opinion formed from contemplation but that the workflows are so different that they are having to return source control management from scratch.

Developers typically don't want to be told they have to learn a new tool unless it was their idea.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have to use SVN at work and I miss git so much.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 3 points 11 months ago

I'm so sorry!

[–] RocketBoots@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

~~Julie~~ Julia Evans! I love her stuff. I haven't read her blog in a bit, this is now a good excuse.

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

Julia Evans. Yeah, she's the one who makes those little zines!

[–] rothaine 2 points 11 months ago

I feel like "subversion was so much worse" should be the free space