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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I doubt most people use an adblocker.

Anyone who's aware of these issues or cares about them really should have been smart enough to switch to Firefox a long time ago.

[–] RTRedreovic@feddit.ch 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of people do use Adblockers. https://backlinko.com/ad-blockers-users

You can try other sources as well. The statistics say significant numbers on multiple places.

[–] pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

46% global and 27 USA? Damn the us people are even more tech illiterate than I would've guessed. I suppose the 85+% market share of the iPhone among teens has something to do with it.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you really surprised, considering how much our education system gets hijacked by right-wing legislation?

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't personally call 42% that high and by definition not most.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

It's much better than what I observe with people around me, I would have guessed about 10%

[–] Vendul@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Must be enough to make big companies angry

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's more that they know most people won't bother if they make it difficult.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which makes this even more annoying. Like you have good chunk of the world using your browser with ads, but you still want even more and are still taking these types of scummy actions.

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[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I use duck duck go. The browser on my phone even auto opts out of cookies

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The majority of people on Chrome at this point are the same people that only ever used Internet Explorer until like 2015. They aren't even using Ublock, they don't even know what it is. The kind of people who have their nephew set their computers up for them.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How dare you! I AM the nephew that sets up their computers for them, and I install Firefox.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago

And that's why I set my elders up with uBlock.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Google when people don't stop using chrome and just disable ublock:

:)

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[–] Captain_Baka@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Google when people stop using chrome

Not so sure about that. I know more than enough persons who still like to use Edge (Internet Explorer).

[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem isn't Edge in itself. It is good if there are many browsers. But when Javascript became more than just a play thing, all of a sudden browser slowly moved to chromium as an engine. There used to be Opera, IE, Edge, Firefox, Safari and Chrome with each their own browser engine. Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari and Firefox left. Google is way too powerful with their marketshare. They constantly try to implement features that are bad for users.

Please use Firefox if you can!

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Now there is only Chromium/Blink, Safari/WebKit and Firefox/Gecko left.

{browser}/{browser_engine}

[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know. I mixed engines and browsers. I was too lazy to find out the engine names of opera, edge and ie.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 3 points 1 year ago

Opera had Presto.

Edge used EdgeHTML.

IE used Trident/MSHTML.

[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New engines are in test stage, servo, ladybird etc.

[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 1 points 1 year ago

The problem is that it will take ages for them to get any adoption in a new browser. Firefox used to be a big player and then chrome came along. Now most of the people don't even try Firefox anymore. I still hear a lot of "Firefox is slow" sentiment even though it isn't.

[–] Captain_Baka@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least at home and on mobile I absolutely do o7

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I've started using Firefox at work, too. Unfortunately, I still have to use a lot of the Google sites at work, but they all work flawlessly within Firefox and uBO.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use Edge at work and it's a really decent browser. It's not Internet Explorer it's basically Chrome with different tracking software lol

Obviously I use Firefox personally. But it's actually decent.

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[–] galoisghost@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago
[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Back before web browsers had ad-blocking extensions, we had programs like Web Washer. It was a local, ad-blocking proxy program that you ran along side your browser. To use it, you just changed your browser's network settings to point to Web Washer. And the ads would be filtered before they even reached your browser. It would be no problem to implement this again.

[–] zagaberoo 19 points 1 year ago

PiHole is the most common way I hear of network-level ad blocking these days.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The vast majority of Chrome users will continue to use Chrome, as the vast majority of internet users do not use adblock software.

[–] Titou@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

im not sure about it, they wouldn't try to ban ublock if it was a minority

[–] MiddledAgedGuy 2 points 1 year ago

Random article I found said about 26% of people in the US use adblocking services. Working on the assumption that's reasonably accurate, that's a pretty big chunk of ad revenue.

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[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It won't do anything to their market share. At work my colleagues keep asking me "Why don't you use chrome?" or saying things like "Isn't Firefox slow?". They simply don't know or don't care to know. Also Firefox IS slow or just doesn't work, not because it's a bad browser but I've been seeing a trend of websites being designed to make it appear slow, like YouTube takes 5 extra secs on Firefox to load videos Clipcham and Adobe outright not supporting Firefox on their websites. The internet is a clown show.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, but you work with a bunch of morons of they are harassing you about it.

[–] nfsu2@feddit.cl 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder what is the thought process here, why wouldn't someone who went the length of installing an adblocker look for other browsers as options?

Ublock is so good at being 'set and forgettable I've gone beyond just suggesting it to friends and family who aren't very tech literate, and just installed it for them. I'm sure I can't be the only one. But these people would likely go straight back to consuming ads rather than try to figure out why their ad blocker stopped working. That's sad but it's true.

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[–] corbin@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uBlock Origin has a Manifest V3 version, it's not going anywhere. I swear there are more people not reading anything here than Facebook.

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 points 1 year ago

Nah, there's a big difference between what and how much you're allowed to block in V2 vs V3 - the current status V2 adblock is way outside the range of V3's version.

I'd say V3 blockers can probably block at best 30% of what V2 can block. Which means it has to be selective. It essentially nuders the extension, making it worthless - an adblocker that only blocks some ads is not an adblocker at all. It's more of an ad restrictor, and in heavily monetized sites it might not even be that.

[–] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

And everyone rediscovered Firefox and the world was at ease.

[–] MayonnaiseArch 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We still have maybe two years before they start destrying gmail. I think they're already itching

[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

The IMAP support has been more or less broken since the very beginning. Their custom labels make folders behave in a non-standard way and the IMAP itself is terribly slow compared to every single other provider I've used. I used to have dedicated workarounds in my email automation scripts for their weird folder semantics, for even such trivial tasks as actually deleting an email as opposed to merely removing a label from it.

It's already unusable as far as I'm concerned.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have done shitty things to Gmail before, such as forced Google+ integration, with backlash as expected. They are shutting down the basic HTML version soon, too.

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[–] ComradeWeebelo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember when Chrome released and it was a hot mess performance wise. I haven't used it since and it doesn't seem like I'm missing anything.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

The last straw for me was about a decade ago when an update completely broke Chrome on my machine. It would open and immediately crash, even after reinstalling. Everything else worked fine, virus scans came back clean and everything, it was only Chrome. I spent the next 2 months playing browser roulette before settling on ol' reliable Firefox once again.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 1 year ago
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

It didn’t even make sense, because the point of Google was never to make money anyway. The point of Google was to make investors believe it was worth billions of dollars.

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