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[–] root@aussie.zone 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bed bugs.

Positive outcome would be no more having to burn contaminted possessions (or wash them in very hot water many times).

[–] athos77@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was going to go with the rabies virus, but bedbugs is a solid choice as well.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Viruses aren't even alive in the technical biological sense

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[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I think any human-specialized parasite is an easy choice. Head lice? Fuck em.

[–] hanni@lemmy.one 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I know you said that we shouldn’t say humans but I’m gonna say it anyway:

Humans.

Sorry.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would be interesting to tally up the negative impacts of removing humans as well.

Culls of invasive species would no longer occur, which would be detrimental in those ecosystems.

A fairly significant number of endangered animals probably only exist today due to human intervention and breeding programs (i am well aware that we probably made them endangered in the first place)

Cross breeds would be done as well, Ligers and Mules require humans for breeding. Although in fairness they are definitely not natural to begin with.

Many animals we have domesticated would be done for as well, most smaller dogs are completely, reliant on humans for food and grooming. Many cats would be okay, but some breeds are likely dead ends as well. Jersey cows would probably have a bad time as well, without milking, sheep might have issues as well?

Interesting thought experiment.

[–] Deebster@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is a good topic. I can add a few:

~~Short term, pets in houses, farm animals, etc will need to escape and start fending for themselves otherwise they'll starve (or dehydrate).~~. Oops, I'd somehow missed an entire paragraph of your post πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ Sheep need us to trim their wool, because we've bred them up grow fair more than they need. They'll get too hot if they don't have problems with defecation first (an actual thing farmers have to worry about).

Medium to long term, when dams and dikes aren't maintained they'll eventually fail, flooding vast areas including the Netherlands.

I guess that the world will continue heating for a bit even once we're gone, so we wouldn't be around to theoretically use our tech to help. Obviously, we're the reason it's happening in the first place, but nature's not equipped to deal with change that's this rapid.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, most of those we created through breeding, but you could argue that wolves and coyotes created modern deer the same way.

I do wonder if many would go extinct in the medium term from predation, before they can evolve fast enough to adapt; I'm thinking farm pigs and chickens would be OK in the short term - they don't need us to survive - but wild dogs/coyotes/wolves, large cats like the NA lions, raptors, foxes... they'd all be putting a lot of pressure on those mostly defenseless breeds. Pigs are not wild hogs. Cattle and horses exist just fine in their environments without humans. Even with predation, herds are large and they aren't defenseless.

Sheep are an exception; like you said, they need us to perform maintenance because of how we've bred them. Are there others?

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My thoughts go to a lot of our stored and operational fuel supplies. Nuclear fuel (both civil and weapon) would eventually become exposed through lack of storage container maintinance and cooling starting meltdown reactions in their localized environments. Oil extraction, distribution, and refining systems are automated to an extent but somewhere a tank is going ng to rupture or just run out of space and then it's all getting into the environment, likely at sea to have what effects that may cause.

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[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Humans are the only species that would ask a question like this with ecologically damning effects. So, yeah.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans are not the problem. Ultrarich people are.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh come on, really? Is the problem ultrarich people? Or is the problem poor people who won't eat those ultrarich people?

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[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Canadian Geese, the animal that Canada stored all its rage inside and sent to battle the United States

[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

How dare you. I live for seasonal goose fly bys

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 3 points 1 year ago

And Finland...

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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate to say it, but getting rid of mosquitos would probably have bigger consequences than that. The females are the only ones sucking blood, the males on the other hand help pollinate plants, exterminating them could potentially affect our food production lines...

... But not gonna lie I'd still genocide the fuckers, ecological damage be damned.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't need to eliminate all mosquitos, just the ones that bite people.

There are dozens of different species of mosquitos, and not all of them bite people. If you get rid of the ones that bite people the others will likely still fill in as pollinators for those that are no longer competing with them.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Only the females of a tiny fraction of species, and only when they need to produce eggs, stuck blood.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pandas. I mean, they really don't seem like they want to exist in the first place. And China get's to finally shut up about them.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

they really don’t seem like they want to exist

Alternatively, they're at peace and content with their existence. At least that's what it seems like to me, goals really

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

but they cute though

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cockroaches... as far as I'm aware, they don't contribute anything to the eco system, they're just pests.

Unfortunatelly, not even a nuclear war can erradicate them πŸ˜’.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'Cockroach' encompasses a wide range of species, the majority of which have no interest in living in a human's home, and contribute to the work of decomposition on the forest floor. Many smaller predators also eat them.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OK, just the pest ones then 😁.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm on board with that πŸ‘

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago
[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

If you gave any random person god like powers to do whatever they wanted, they would immediately eradicate mosquitoes as their first act.

[–] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Mosquitoes are pollinators. Sucking blood and being annoying is only a small part of their functionality.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 year ago

The bats would miss them.

Any change to the biodiversity on our planet will have a negative effect. What is a pest to you is food for another species, or a pollinator, or any of dozens of valuable purposes.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humanity OFC-- oh you said not to say humans... Shit.

[–] PeWu@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

How nice would that be if humanity stopped existing...

[–] GyozaPower@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hard to say. Mosquitos, is probably not one of them because even as much as we hate them, many animals prey on them, so unless other insect replaces them as a food source for those animals, them disappearing would probably affect many other species and subsequently, other species that may feed or depend in some form on those that feed on mosquitos.

My answer would probably be ticks, since I don't think there's many animals that feed on them and their only usefulness is population control, which should be doable by other species either way.

Edit: bed bugs as well, since it was mentioned by other commenters, I hate those fuckers and last I checked they weren't any animal's primary food source.

[–] Lorindol@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember reading some scientic article that examined what would happen if we eradicated the mosquitos entirely.

Surprisingly, they came to the conclusion that they'd just be gone and we would be a lot happier without the nuisance and the diseases they spread.

No other species is dependent on mosquitos as a food source, they could easily find enough to eat with them gone. Mosquitos apparently serve no known vital purpose in their ecosystems, although it was mentioned that males of some species have some little value as secondary pollinators.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ticks and botflies. We don't need maggots making a home in our skin. Even worse is what they do to animals like sheep.

Mosquitos are mainly an annoyance to me and I can deal with them.

[–] Devi 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maggots are the things that breakdown dead stuff, without them you'd have dead animals and plants rotting on the ground for ages while the bacteria breaks them down slowly. I think the whole world would smell worse.

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mosquitos. Also bedbugs. Any insect that feeds on blood really

[–] aroom@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chiggers. Fucking hate those things.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is a dangerous word to say

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

None. And we’re hurting badly from the ones that have already been removed.

[–] Bebo@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago

Same for me, mosquitoes. Those pesky little buggers!

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