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Australians’ tipping habits are not keeping pace with higher menu prices, new research shows, as household costs soar and diners grapple with pandemic-era hospitality charges.

A report by Lightspeed Commerce, using payments platform data, found that the average tip amount dropped in August to 8.1% of a total bill.

This is the lowest amount in four years recorded by the point-of-sale and software company, and the first time it has dropped below 9% since early 2021.

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[–] wasabi@lemmings.world 51 points 10 months ago

Good, fuck tipping

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 30 points 10 months ago

Australians’ ~~tipping habits~~ employers fail to ~~keep up with~~ pay even a living wage, while ~~rising~~ raising restaurant prices

Fixed that for you

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago

So? We don't tip in Australia. We have overtime, holiday leave loading (literally paid more to go on holiday), superannuation, etc. We don't need, nor want tipping. This isn't a country that pays adults $12 an hour, and has no benefits.

[–] zero_gravitas@aussie.zone 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FUCK TIPPING.

I was glad to see this bit at the end:

The number of payments with tips has remained stable throughout the last year with 0.52% of payments including a tip in August 2023, according to Lightspeed.

Still, we really do have to be vigilant in our efforts to prevent tipping being normalised. You can bet restaurant owners are going to be pushing it whenever they see an opportunity, so we need to be pushing back harder.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels 1 points 10 months ago

Does that represent the US tourists who tip out of habit?

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Great, good, gorgonzola. We don't do that here.

These type of articles are designed to try and normalise this behaviour. Not having it. Price is on the menu and is tax inclusive. Get fucked.

[–] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago

I'm absolutely horrified that tipping is still as high as 8% for those who do tip.

Get that absolute nonsense out of our country. It benefits no one and will only do great harm in the long run. Just look at the mess that is American hospitality.

[–] MHLoppy2@aussie.zone 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've never seen the stats before and 8% seems really high?? Is there some subset of Australia that tips all the time that I rarely see?

Edit: nvm, the stat is confusing as other commenter pointed out.

The number of payments with tips has remained stable throughout the last year with 0.52% of payments throughout the hospitality sector including a tip in August 2023, according to Lightspeed.

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 12 points 10 months ago

Would appear from this article that average tip amount would be the average of all tips actually given, not tips from all charges. Fuck tipping, raise wages.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 11 points 10 months ago

Wait until you see how few Australian tenants tip their landlords.

[–] dracs@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~~I'm surprised to hear it's that high in Australia~~. Edit: Like others I misread the stats. 8% is the average to amount of the tip, only 0.5% of transactions include tips. I just got back from the US and it's awful over there.

The last two times I remember tipping in Australia (excluding "keep the change") was one for a local food truck I like during the pandemic lockdowns. The other was a few years before that at a restaurant after I told them we were there for my mum's birthday to get a candle in the desert, the chef instead took her back into the kitchen and showed her how they prepared several of the dishes (and we got the candle).

[–] hikarulsi@aussie.zone 6 points 10 months ago

If you pay 5%, business can pay 95% for the employee to survive. This mean your action is encouraging that the job to be 5% slavery

[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago

Wait, it's not April 1st, is it?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Australians’ tipping habits are not keeping pace with higher menu prices, new research shows, as household costs soar and diners grapple with pandemic-era hospitality charges.

A report by Lightspeed Commerce, using payments platform data, found that the average tip amount dropped in August to 8.1% of a total bill.

Andrew Fraser, Lightspeed’s managing director for Asia Pacific, said more customers have been leaving tips in recent years, although the size of the gratuity has fallen as a percentage of the total bill.

“With inflation driving costs up, this is impacting the additional money that is able to go back to hospitality staff for their service.”

Tony Green, chief executive of the Australian Foodservice Advocacy Body, said the long-term practice in Australia had been to tip about 10% for good service.

This also raises a question over whether the wait staff, or restaurant owner, will receive the gratuity, although Tax Office rules dictate the venue operator must pass the tip to the employees.


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