A place to discuss the news and latest developments on the open-source browser Firefox
I think is time to #switch back to @firefox
https://www.reddit.com/r/brave/comments/17z4m03/its_over_boys/
#brave #youtube #chrome #ads #adblock #blockadblock #chromium
Lol, as if terms of service for something freely available on the internet that doesn't require an account to use mean anything at all. Stop huffing your own farts, Google.
Google cares a lot more about me watching ads than I care about watching YouTube.
With that being said, I've only encountered the "Ad blockers violate YouTube's terms of service" screen once, and when I refreshed it was gone
I've been with Firefox since the start and it's going well. I tried the others to see what's up but they never satisfied me. I'm a Firefox user all the way.
Mandatory: FUCK REDDiT!!!
Same for the most part, but I will say I tried using Firefox on the Macbook Pro I used when I was working on my masters, and it was an absolute memory hog. I noticed during my tenure on r/firefox that most of the posts complaining about sluggishness or consuming massive amounts of memory came from Mac OS users, so I feel like I wasn't alone.
I never used an apple computer for my personal use so can't say much about performance issues because in the limited time I had to use them I was using safari because I couldn't be bothered to do anything extra. In my humble opinion I do believe there can be issues because Mozilla doesn't have the best record for optimizations for platforms. But it seems they are doing a better job lately because when I use Firefox on Linux or windows I barely notice anything.
Oh, absolutely! Firefox on Linux and Windows has never been a problem for me. The only problem I had on Linux is the flatpak version gets stuttery when I want to stream from sites of questionable repute, which I could probably fix if I weren't too lazy to troubleshoot it.
You weren't using Firefox though.
You were using Safari with a Firefox skin.
Isn't that only a thing on iPhone? I don't think they impose that restriction on MacOS
Ok but it's still an official version of Firefox, so I fail to see how this is germane
I know that it's an herculean task with millions of workhours to build a browser from scratch with all engines JS (SpiderMonkey), CSS (Quantum) and HTML (Gecko) and we can be lucky to have Firefox. I use the very performant version on Android every day and especially appreciate that Dark Reader and uBlock Origin work.
May I have a minute to talk to you about our saviour Vivaldi?
If no other browser could satisfy you, you either haven't tried Vivaldi, you haven't tried it long enough or you tried an old version.
For me no other browser comes close regarding the IMO most important feature of browsers (beside supporting the essential web-standards): tab management. Stacking, tiling, hibernating, pinning and more recently the fantastic workspace-feature.
That's only on the tab-front. How about: built in tracker- & ad-blocker, built in dark website-mode, translator, email-client, rss reader, note-app, reading-list, user definable search-engines, page screenshots, appify websites into sidebar and another killer feature: press F2 for a combined command-window and search-everywhere popup.
The next best thing after the year of the Linux Desktop would be if Vivaldi and Firefox joined forces and Vivaldi would switch to Firefox's engines.
Edge does nearly all those things now too. Edge and Vivaldi are both closed source and yet another Chromium under the hood.
I'll pass ty.
First of all I respect your love and support for Vivaldi. I'm also happy that you find something that is satisfying for you.
Yes, Vivaldi is a solid option but it never clicked for me because of all the extra bells and whistles you mentioned.
When I said I'm not satisfied with all these other famous browsers it's because I tired them on an off many times but for my use case they don't bring me anything over Firefox. I don't need nor I want a built-in RSS reader, ad/tracker blockers, VPN, email client, translator etc... It doesn't make a browser better in my humble opinion. It's just adding extra stuff that I don't want. I want the freedom to add or remove anything I want.
I might be the odd one but I want things to be simple. When I buy a phone I don't want to be paying for the extra cameras it has or when I buy a PC I don't want the RGB stuff or when I buy a car I don't want it to be connected to internet and require software updates. I don't want my fridge to have internet connection nor my TV to have one.
Thanks for understanding. Didn't want to disrespect your inclination to Firefox. Everyone should use what they like best. And I sure don't want to sound preachy...but...YOU'RE MISSING OUT BIG TIME! Can I come in for just a moment to tell you about your path to a better life?
"Simple things should be simple but complex things should be possible" (Alan Kay)
Vivaldi's UI is pretty minimal by default and can be minimized even more. Heck you even can hide the tab- and url-bar and completely navigate with F2. You can call it a day and keep using it like that or you go on to create mouse gestures, quick commands or themes, you set the key combos, configure the look of your speed dial and add search engines. That's my last try, Neo. Do you take the red or the blue pill?
Ahahaha. Thanks but no thanks. I don't have a fear of missing out and I don't see myself using Vivaldi as my default browser in anytime soon.
Good luck with your conversion efforts.
I'm using Boost and that link opened in Boost for Reddit so I didn't even notice it's on Reddit lmfao
Just so you know, Piped.video is also an option. And you can import your subscription feed from YouTube.
I prefer Freetube and Newpipe as those don't depend on some server (aside from youtube servers duh)
The cool thing about Piped is that it serves as a proxy, so you don't connect to YouTube directly
@JackGreenEarth Wow, this is look good. I use now odysee, but at Piped.video is much more content in first quick search. Thanks.
I've already gone to the next step.
Youtube clients that block ads.
Gotta stay a step ahead.
What one is working for you?
For desktop I use the Freetube client.
cant you just use an instance that isnt blocked?
@tubaruco
Perhaps, but finding one is a bit of pain in the ass. And since you have to register for each one separately, if they later block that on...meh
What gets blocked is random and weird...today it was an open source educational resources site.
Go figure.
well, i never used accounts on invidious, so i just forgot those exist
though you could use rss feeds directly from youtube so that you can see posted videos, and itd just be a little harder since youd have to search for it on a pc (if ur on a phone, you can just use newpipe)
theres also piped
I have seen so many inbuilt ad blockers of browsers fail, especially at YouTube, even before the recent changes, that I was surprised to see them still being used and promoted by eg. Louis Rossmann.
IMO basically nothing can beat addons, at least if seen for all browsers or just firefox.
Browser devs can't focus on ad blocking functionality. And their team developing ad blockers will certainly be smaller than the team of devs for adblock addons; the browser just needs somewhat functional stuff while the addon depends on delivering a very good to perfect to be used and to receive donations.
On chromium, with Manifest V3 at our doors, built in ad blockers will win over addons by far, just because they have more power.
This creates an interesting situation, at least in my mind fed by my bubble:
Tech nerds will use firefox, probably with adblock addon
Tech illiterates will use whatever comes preinstalled - Edge, without any adblock
Users that know the concept of browsers will probably use Chrome, or other browsers they heard before - possibly a Chromium browser with built in blocker
Now, what happens if the built in blockers fail - again and again and again? Will the somewhat knowledgeable user care and switch to another browser, maybe the one pushed the most for adblocking: FF with uBlock?
Tech nerds will use firefox, probably with adblock addon
Adblock isn't a real issue because every browser has it. The real issue is all the other cool extensions available from Chromium-based browsers.
I use 27 addons on my desktop, in firefox. There are no extensions I would need but don't exist for firefox. The only extension I had to replace with a Tampermonkey script was Vencord, because the devs removed the firefox version of it.
And on my phone I use 12 addons. On chrome, or any other browser not based on FF, I could use exactly none.
27 addons? Might as well disable Resist Fingerprinting, then.
I know what you're saying, because having that many addons makes them unique, but doesn't resist fingerprinting still help somewhat?
It does a few things here and there that can still be useful, true.
In my understanding, a website should only be able to detect addons if they directly change the website in any way, eg. the css or html. So let's just go through the list and check:
Doesn't uBlock still work great with Youtube? Even then there is Peertube, Piped and the many apps that use Piped in different platforms anyway.
Idk what that guys is complaining about. I'm running Brave with also uBlock Origin (for the ads the native blocker doesn't detect) and right now on Youtube the native ad blocker catches everything and runs just fine.
I get this, I clear my cookies, it goes away for awhile. I wonder if I can just find the specific cookie and remove it frequently this whould just stop.