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How are people sending emails from their self hosted apps? I Thought MailSender would be good but i guess not. Im about to try SendPulse now. Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just setup a gmail account, just gotta turn on legacy smtp

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[–] adiyasl@alien.top 3 points 1 year ago

I use mailgun. They give 1000 emails for free monthly which is plenty for me.

[–] smnhdy@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] wally40@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Same, set up a separate email that I use exclusively for services. Did this as if the app password is hacked, they have access to an account with nothing but notifications.

[–] JM-Lemmi@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

AWS SES or Hetzner (where my mail id also hosted)

[–] legrenabeach@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

Postfix installed on the server itself. My apps don't send many emails, why go through the complication and cost of hosting email externally?

[–] GNUGradyn@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

Send grid has no approval process and will give you 100/day for free

[–] SysAdmin-Universe@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazon SES. My monthly bills are between 3 and 8 cents per month

[–] anon108@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

How did you guys get approved on Amazon SES? My application was instantly rejected when I specified it for outbound emails.

[–] pigers1986@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

gmail with separate account than primary one

[–] Powerstream@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

Started using Purelymail. Easy setup with my multiple domains. Really cheap.

[–] dumbasPL@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago

Guys, we are on r/selfhosted, and all the top replies are recommending cloud services? The actual fuck. I personally host my own postal server and it works great.

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

Because it would be overrun with phishing abuse in a matter of minutes?

[–] thekrautboy@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing at all.

I selfhost ntfy and services that only support email for notifications send them to ntfy smtp, then ntfy turns them into a push notification.

[–] adamshand@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I just checked the docs and didn't see anything about ntfy accepting smtp? This would be useful, what am I missing?

[–] sebampueromori@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Innominate8@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sendgrid, Sparkpost, SES, plain gmail.

If you're only sending emails to yourself, gmail works well with no cost.

[–] tschloss@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Are you sending lots of mails to a large group of users. If not why not use any normal e-mail service like gmail?

[–] lighthawk16@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Selfhosted Mailcow.

[–] machstem@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mxroute

they have a bf sale right now

[–] bruderbarnabas@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] machstem@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

mxroute?

Their sale in on their site

[–] primevaldark@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I use Fastmail with a specific domain and/or aliases to separate it easily by rules as needed. But I do pay for Fastmail and only send emails to myself so may or may not be applicable to you.

[–] madrascafe@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] airclay@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I used zoho. $16/yr for mail.mydomain and myname@mydomain set up. Use groups to set up different streams/mailboxes for all the things (gitlab@/cloud@/admin@/etc). It's super easy to point things at.

[–] Tai9ch@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Delegating mail to an external service means you're not self hosting it.

Sending email is something you can just do. There's no need for an external service unless:

  • You're trying to deliver email to external users.
  • You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.
[–] reddit_names@alien.top 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're trying to deliver email to external users.

You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.

So literally everyone actually using email.

[–] Tai9ch@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

No.

Having a couple emails end up in spam boxes isn't that big a deal for many self-hosted app scenarios.

For example, if you have a limited set of users, the setup process can involve getting an email and marking it not spam.

[–] AvGeekExplorer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Sendgrid… you’d be well within the free tier.

[–] ggezboye@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I have secondary gmail account just for that.

[–] crazedizzled@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

A VPS with Mailcow.

[–] aadoop6@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Are there any third party services that don't require phone numbers for sign-ups?

[–] ItzGonzoHD@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] pcs3rd@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I pay $7 for a noreply user in my business starter Google workspace.

[–] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Dedicated Gmail account.

[–] crashj@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

G suite account supports inbound and outbound relaying.

[–] hunterhulk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

i personally found SendGrid easy to setup and cost effective

[–] FetAkhenaten@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] timo_hzbs@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago
[–] CaffeinatedTech@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I was using mailgun, but they recently fucked me, so I switched everything to Brevo.

[–] ikbosh@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting to not have seen PostMark mentioned

[–] montyny69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I use duocircle.com, allows.dkim and spf. 1,000 per month for free. Gives a warning at 800 and 900 - helpful when I have a process run a little amok.

[–] ImissHurley@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The SMTP relay that comes with my M365 tenant.

[–] stoneobscurity@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

gmail with an app specific password.

[–] focusontech87@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any privacy implications with this method?

[–] d662@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

All the same privacy implications of using gmail in general. Although for service-related notifications I would think the implications are far lower than using gmail for regular communication.

[–] Jonteponte71@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I did not know this feature existed. On to creating a separate gmail for my services!

[–] anachronisdev@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A bit overkill but mxroute. Complete own Mail-environment for sending and receiving.

About 50.- a year I think it was

[–] capecodcarl@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Check for Black Friday deals at mxroute. I signed up last year for $10/year.

[–] nutterbg@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Mailjet. Free for 6000 emails/mo, which for me is plenty to cover backup notification, monitoring system notifications, etc.

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