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TL;DR

  • Google has updated its privacy policy.
  • The new policy adds that Google can use publically available data to train its AI products.
  • The way the policy is worded, it sounds as if the company is reserving the right to harvest and use data posted anywhere on the web.

You probably didn’t notice, but Google quietly updated its privacy policy over the weekend. While the wording of the policy is only slightly different from before, the change is enough to be concerning.

As discovered by Gizmodo, Google has updated its privacy policy. While there’s nothing particularly notable in most of the policy, one section now sticks out — the research and development section. That section explains how Google can use your information and now reads as:

Google uses information to improve our services and to develop new products, features and technologies that benefit our users and the public. For example, we use publicly available information to help train Google’s AI models and build products and features like Google Translate, Bard, and Cloud AI capabilities.

Before the update, this section mentioned “for language models” instead of “AI models.” It also only mentioned Google Translate, where it now adds Bard and Cloud AI.

As the outlet points out, this is a peculiar clause for a company to add. The reason why it’s peculiar is that the way it’s worded makes it sound as if the tech giant reserves the right to harvest and use data from any part of the public internet. Usually, a policy such as this only discusses how the company will use data posted on its own services.

While most people likely realize that whatever they put online will be publicly available, this development opens up a new twist — use. It’s not just about others being able to see what you write online, but also about how that data will be used.

Bard, ChatGPT, Bing Chat, and other AI models that provide real-time information work by scraping information from the internet. The sourced information can often come from others’ intellectual property. Right now, there are lawsuits accusing these AI tools of theft, and there are likely to be more to come down the line.

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[–] jerb@lemmy.croc.pw 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are we sure this isn't just for clarity? "Language model" implies Bard and such already as they're more formally called "large language models." While I don't like that they're doing it, I think it's very likely they've been publicly scraping information for quite some time (in fact, for an LLM like Bard, they pretty much have to!), and have just changed the wording to fully disambiguate between Google Translate and Bard.

[–] Dee_Imaginarium 1 points 1 year ago

I was going to say, I'm pretty sure they've been doing this already. They're basically just describing what web scrapers already do. I'm not saying it's okay or that it should be allowed, but this isn't a new development. Lots of companies do this. We need to get legislation in place by our lawmakers to put a stop or at least tamp down on this behavior.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only person that's happy about this is Elon, because it vindicates him. Everyone else should be outraged. Honestly, Google needs to start paying us, because this absolutely isn't right and they will profit massively.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I say we start poisoning things with AI generated text. I'll be doing so myself on my blog, only a couple of sentences here and there as to not detract from the quality or put readers off.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a shame because I have published a few stories and poems online and hoped they would one day gain traction, turns out they'll just stolen.

[–] TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] Dee_Imaginarium 1 points 1 year ago

As an artist/writer, your works were already getting stolen and will always get stolen. Just a part of life as a creative. Can't tell you how many times I've seen my drawings with somebody else's name on it, a report will generally get it taken care of but still. Don't let this stop you from sharing your work.

[–] clementineholic@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I don't like this at all, but I doubt it can be stopped. I hope at the end of the day, when AI adoption is widespread, AI will have improved the internet and our lives rather than make them worse.

[–] reclipse@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] VinkTheGod@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it a problem really? We post because we want to, usually at our own leisure. If a site is public, it means everyone can see what we had posted. Instead of a human it'll be a bot that remembers bits and pieces.

In the future AI will be heavily regulated most likely. Right now it's a wild west. Big corpos have resources, so they do it to get the lead. It has always been like that, why this instance is different?

[–] reclipse@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Google can train their AI with information I post on google sites. But to use information posted on other sites seems problematic to me.

[–] middlemuddle 2 points 1 year ago

I think there's an argument to be made that Google is profiting off our intellectual property. Just because we share something publicly doesn't mean we immediately cede ownership of it. We expect that our postings will be read by many, and used to inform their opinions, but I don't think most of us expect someone out there to take what we've written and leverage it for their business. The impact of one social media post on Google's AI training is infinitesimally small, but they're still taking your ideas to improve their business.

I doubt existing laws could be used to address this, but I do think that it warrants better regulation. The value of Google's AI is in the content that it has scraped and we're all providing some of that content. We should have a say in the matter or, at very least, be compensated for our contributions.

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