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The way they talk about it makes it sound like they invented the written word, but that notwithstanding the fonts actually look really nice in my opinion.

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[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People actually change fonts in their IDE? I've always used whatever the default is and never even thought about it.

[–] zettajon@lemdro.id 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I'm a big fan of Fira Code! I haven't found any others I like more.

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[–] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

some people even change default system fonts used in the deskop environment (menu's, filemanager etc) 😎😁

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, I need to get out more.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.de 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Calling it now, Radon will become the new Comic Sans.

[–] interolivary 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I looked at the first couple of fonts, then read all that stuff about readability this, state of the art that, expressive palettes la-di-da and I thought "ok maybe they have an idea here".

Then I looked at the rest of the examples and ran into that… thing. Like, the fucker's so aggressively irritating to read that you could use that font to hide eg. backdoors in code, and reviewers would instinctively skip over those parts just to avoid the pain.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly I could see radon for comments only. It makes it clear that it's a comment by the font alone.

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[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, Comic Code is pretty damn good.

[–] cosmic_skillet@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was interesting how they adjusted sizes based on adjacent letters. Good idea

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[–] anguo@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too bad I'm married to JetBrains Mono.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't look half bad, actually!

i use it in visual studio code and it looks really nice!

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[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like Hack as my font of choice, but I will probably give this a shot. It's a font, there is no risk of data collection, Microsoft style bugs, or other Microsoft-associated product issues.

[–] aport@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I used Dejavu Sans for like 10 years, and Hack is the perfect incremental improvement. I've tried to use other fonts but I keep coming back to Hack.

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[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They really look nice. A good font makes a huge difference.

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[–] singularity@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Having different font styles depending on the context is a really nice feature. I'll definitely give it a try.

[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a cool idea and the example they gave actually seemed pretty neat.

I'd (somewhat perversely) love to see this feature tried in a terminal emulator. ANSI does actually define escape codes for switching to alternative fonts (ESC [ 10 m through ESC [ 19 m) though I don't know of any software or even term drawing library that uses it.

[–] singularity@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That would really be neat.

[–] crank 2 points 1 year ago

Kitty terminal has a lot of configurations for fonts. I beleive you can get down to adjustments for specific charecters. Idk if it uses the specific technology you are suggesting. But it is explained in the kitty.conf docs.

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[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Very interesting technique to get the widths of the glyphs uniform without them looking ugly in most cases. OK, one can make it look bad if you know the "pain points" of the system, but in normal flowing texts, the fonts do look good.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Looks lovely! The art of fonts is something I will never understand but always appreciate. This website is also brilliant in showing everything dynamically and explaining why it all matters. Safe to say Github will start using it everywhere? It's also open source, which is nice (and makes sense considering what Github is striving for).

Edit: Not 100% sure on texture healing though. Toggling it on and off in the example makes me feel like texture healing makes everything look weirder. It makes the font look less monospace which should be good, but it just messes with my mind when some letters look slightly different in different contexts. Like the spacing is not immediately obvious to me and having the same letters look different is throwing my mind in a loop. I guess I'll need to try it to see if it's comfortable.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Really confusing name for new users, considering we have monotype fonts... Guess we should be happy they didn't name it monatype...

[–] pascal@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what happens when we let soydevs name things.

[–] TheFriendlyArtificer 3 points 1 year ago

Hey! Soydevs are people too.

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[–] doomkernel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That Krypton font do looking nice

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, like, since when does Microsoft put out something both functional and cool, ya know?

[–] maniel@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Well, their previous fonts are nice, Calibri etc

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 year ago

I didn't think I had strong opinions on fonts.

Turns out I viscerally despise "handwriting" fonts. They're harder to read. It just makes me recoil.

I also intensely dislike "ligatures " that turn like == into a separate glyph. Or the one that turns >= into the > with the line under it. No. Stop. That's not what I typed. That's not what I'm looking for when I scan the text.

Side note: I assume someone is feeling clever and is thinking of replying with a handwriting font message with ligatures. You don't have to. I already imagined it.

The texture healing seems cool though, but I didn't immediately notice or understand until I read through the detailed section on it.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I'm a simple man, I just use DejaVu Sans Mono without any ligatures or other fancy stuff.

Works everywhere.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This "texture healing" seems to be based on commit mono's smart kerning https://commitmono.com/ although it only shifts letters around, it doesn't change the characters.

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[–] plumcreek@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

At least 1Il & 0O are different and (mostly) easily distinguishable in all the variants. Only exception is in the Argon variant 1 and l are too similar IMO.

[–] ThetaDev@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Will they replace Consolas in Windows with this one or is it a GitHub-only-thing? In Consolas the characters 1 and l look very similar, making the font unsuitable for coding and terminal use, so it would be good if they replaced it with something else.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who makes a font where I l and | are not immediately distinguishable should be barred from working in the industry.

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[–] Gobbel2000@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

I want to make a joke about how terrible the name is with just throwing in an 'a', but I don't think it would be right since I'm using Fira Code.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No support for this yet in VSCode it seems.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Ironic. It's as if Microsoft departments aren't even aware of each other.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fonts are an OS thing. If you don't have support for it, that's because you haven't downloaded it yet.

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[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

cool. i will still use fira code, but it may be a nicer default alternative to courier new

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, they look nice, but I don't dislike whatever the default font that I use is, and I'm definitely not going to go out of my way to change a font. As long as it's legible, I don't really give two shits what the font is.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Iosevka offers too much customization to leave it—especially removing ligature abuse.

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

Cascading Code failed to impress me, although I'll give this one a try, I doubt it's better than Consolas.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Would this work in vs code only?

[–] fiveoar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I can't shake this feeling that these are lacking something, like I remember looking at Fira for the first time and being like wow, even jetbrains mono had a sort of generic charm. These on the other hand, are just meh.

Maybe they are someone's cup of tea though. I am sure in 6 months I will be hearing about how GitHub invented the developer font of some rubbish like that.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Another one? Why didn’t they contribute fixes to an existing font family? 🙄

Neon looks good. The rest are awful.

Terminus is still my favorite monospaced font followed by Roboto Mono, so ignore me.

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[–] hackris@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I personally use JetBrainsMono, it's my favourite. What do you guys think?

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[–] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

cool. ive wanted a monospaced times-alike like their Xenon here.

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