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[–] vanderbilt 132 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When people make a big stink about Apple not implementing RCS I always bring this up. RCS has an open core sure - but it’s lacking plenty of features that people refer to when talking about RCS. Furthermore, the gateways used for Google’s RCS implementation are made by a company Google acquired. Would we be happy with Apple charging cell providers money to install iMessage gateways at whatever cost they wanted, because they hold the patents? No, so why would we give Google a pass?

If we want to fix this issue, force Google to relinquish their control of RCS and open the standard unencumbered with patents. Require telecoms to implement the standard in full and without deviation or be fined. Give phone manufacturers a few more years to comply and then it’s done.

[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you running for a seat in the European Parliament next year?

[–] vanderbilt 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately I’d be running from Italy and well, we are a bit boneheaded at the moment.

[–] TJmCAwesome@feddit.nu 12 points 1 year ago

You ain't kidding!

[–] interolivary 4 points 1 year ago

Ouch. My condolences.

But hey, it's not just you though; here in Finland we've had eg. multiple literal neo-Nazis in the government – one had to quit because, you know, he is a neo-Nazi, but the extremist right wing party he's from replaced him with a pedophile neo-Nazi – and our Speaker of the Parliament has publicly fantasized on his blog about murdering gay people. And that's just the highlight reel, it gets so much worse.

Europe's a bit fucked, honestly.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

While true, apple remains the bigger hurdle here. They don't seem even willing to cooperate.

[–] vanderbilt 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When people make a big stink about Apple not implementing RCS I always bring this up. RCS has an open core sure - but it’s lacking plenty of features that people refer to when talking about RCS. Furthermore, the gateways used for Google’s RCS implementation are made by a company Google acquired. Would we be happy with Apple charging cell providers money to install iMessage gateways at whatever cost they wanted, because they hold the patents? No, so why would we give Google a pass?

If we want to fix this issue, force Google to relinquish their control of RCS and open the standard unencumbered with patents. Require telecoms to implement the standard in full and without deviation or be fined. Give phone manufacturers a few more years to comply and then it’s done.

[–] Veticia@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can also go the other way around. Force Apple to make iMessage an open standard.

[–] vanderbilt 3 points 1 year ago

That’s true, but there would be additional challenges. Outside of the US, Android dominates the markets to the tune of +80%. In order for such an effort to have teeth, there has to be incentive for them to comply. They could pull iOS out of the EU market and remove iMessage from macOS if it came down to it. They are already such a small percentage they might just eat the loss as the cost of protecting their walled garden. Unlikely, but a possibility nonetheless.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seriously. Hold them all accountable. Don't be pro-google/anti-apple because you happened to give some money to one of them. Scrutinize both at all times.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google tries to make many messaging standards and programs

All fail because of mismanagement

This is supposed to be Apple's problem?

[–] ursakhiin 2 points 1 year ago

Apple could open up iMessage.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm OOTL with this. Anakin, what are you talking about?

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

La asta chiar nu m-am gândit

[–] botorfj@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what's that font?

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Pixel mplus 12