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[–] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 108 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So where are we at right now?

"We didn't bomb the hospital, Hamas did. And even if we bombed the hospital, Hamas used it as a base. And even if they didn't, a some of them were in there. And even if they weren't, there were Hamas tunnels under the hospital."

I wonder what's next

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago

"The hospital was never bombed. All the pictures are fake, all the victims are crisis actors."

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"The civilians there deserved to be bombed because they supported Hamas"

Wait, didn't we do that one already?

[–] Inky@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

They were enemy combatants because they were within bombing radius of an enemy combatant. That was the American logic in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to print more humane-looking civilian casualty numbers

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We didn’t bomb the hospital, Hamas did

We are here still, because to my knowledge no evidence of the "people in the parking lot" bombing being from Israel has come around and most traits of the explosion point to it being a Hamas rocket.

Even this article doesn't say anything about evidence to the contrary coming forward.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. The hospital you're referring to is Al-Ahli Arab Hospital. And the "rocket" from the footage you're referring to has been proven to have been an Iron Dome projectile.

Israel has also attacked Al-Shifa hospital, Al-Quds hospital, the Indonesian hospital, the Turkish-Palestinian Friendship hospital, and the Qatari hospital described in the article.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah they've bombed so many hospitals its hard to keep them straight. It's incredible that Zionists are still bothering to deny it.

Though I'm pretty sure the parking lot explosion was at the al-Shifa hospital.

[–] ira@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, Al-Shifa was where Israel attacked the ambulance convoy and destroyed the hospital's solar panels.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh shit you're right, my b

... god damn a lot of hospitals have been bombed.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It feels like they bombed every hospital because they had intel about one hamas base being under/near one hospital…

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

It feels like they bombed every hospital because they want to make Gaza uninhabitable and force them into Egypt.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Israel also owns up to all of those. The original commenter is intentionally misleading by calling back to the one that was actually denied.

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[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 94 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was no Hamas or tunnels when they massacred Palestinians in Tantura in 1948

There was no Hamas or tunnels when they massacred Palestinians in Khan Yunis in 1956

Israel never needed an excuse they just need a lie to sell to the rest of the world now that everyone is watching

[–] itsmeholland@mastodon.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@PanArab @ira Hamas wasn't founded until THE 80s. Wtf do people think was happening for the first 40 years lmao 🤦 You literally can't blame everything on Hamas, they didn't even exist for half the time.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

You're right, it was previously the PLO that were bombing places and hijacking planes

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Seems like they learned from uncle sam how to empire.

[–] Blapoo@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

shocked Pikachu face

Who could have foreseen Israel lying?

[–] Kalinus@lemmings.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To the shock of probably 1 pro isreal tech bro

[–] V17@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You severely underestimate the support for Israel outside of your bubble.

[–] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

lol.. their time is up

[–] Kalinus@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mean regardless of the support Isreal has or not, what I said was still technically correct

[–] mercury@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

I genuinely don't care about Hamas anymore, they're symptoms of a greater evil, Israel is directly responsible for the radicalization of those people, because of the horrific conditions Palestinians are put in.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

What do you think the H stands for in H~2~O?

[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

However, Sanad’s investigation shows that this is simply the access hatch for a water reservoir that the hospital uses to fill therapeutic pools for amputees, water the grounds, and a reserve water source in case of emergency.

Sanad analysed satellite footage and archives of the hospital’s construction and spoke to one of the original engineers who built it.

It's pretty in depth.

However I have two problems with this logic.

  1. Israel did not confirm the existence of tunnels at that location, which would have been an easy thing to do with a camera and 2 minutes.

  2. This isn't exactly proof that those areas weren't repurposed for tunnels. Just that what Israel thought was a tunnel was not. Which is more of a problem of how the Israel military is assuming too much and bombing people in the process. While processing their assumptions like fact.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Where's the video of the IDF or Netanyahu going over a 3D rendering of a hospital to explain how the Hamas tunnels may be underneath key infrastructure buildings?

The propaganda coming out of the IDF justifying their next move is always so insanrly ridiculous. But I guess if there's now videos coming out of how and where these tunnels are, the IDF might find some more accuracy in their violence.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I am so glad this got posted here so we can have a discussion about it after it was locked on Lemmy World.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

A small price to pay to find tho!