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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse

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[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And thus the Lemmy.world shitshow continues...

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop, what's going on with .world?

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Admins having a power trip on spez level constantly, making their instance into a walled garden, like reddit, being antisemitic and harass other instances admins.

They believe they own lemmy now because they got lucky and be labeled the "default instance" by most apps and got pushed by many.

They are just as insane as Lemmyml admins.

They damage lemmy as a whole, willingly, with this behavior.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you are so much full of shit lol

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, but i actually don't ask for your opinion... So get lost. Ok?

[–] Slimy_hog@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i actually don't ask for your opinion

By posting on a community that anyone can reply to you on, you kinda did ask for other people to respond to you...

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but if you just insult others and don't bring anything meaningful you can also just be quiet and not bother people...

[–] Slimy_hog@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't get to police how folks respond to you..

If you didn't want to be "bothered" and can't handle criticism, you shouldn't have posted something on the internet.

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[–] Antik@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Edit: this guy is moderator on an actual pedo and Loli instance.

https://lemmy.world/comment/5138651

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked you what it is, because you believe to know. And a secondary account has the point of not being associated with a main...

Im not giving you like 20 account names. Don't worry none of them are on your shithole instance or are active there.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

All 20 have because they are all mine. Fuck off.

[–] sour@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why do they participate in the fediverse if they're going to make their instance like a corporate platform

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[–] Antik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just have a look at this user's history if you want to know why he got banned. Basically calling us antisemites and what not. His entire history is full of LW shit-talking on his new account. He even admitted "I have a personal problem with these assholes" without actually revealing his main account.

https://lemmy.world/u/CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org

Edit: his main account is cookiejarobserver@burgitt.moe and he is a mod on a pedo instance

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah i don't care about you banning me, im literally saying you and the other mods are insane, and you constantly following me just proves my point.

Fuck off.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Following? You think I don't get notified when you are calling us names or insulting us?

What's your main account let's see what happened

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I said fuck off and i will never stop calling you out for being insane people.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At least I'm not a moderator on a pedo instance.

People who think I am joking, look up cookiejarobserver@burggit.moe thanks

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but where did you pull the bs from that Im that guy?

Also lmao the guy just posts normal hentai and nothing "pedo" related, and seeing the pinned comment on that instance they absolutely don't allow anything involving real children or even children looking...

You guy are just insane and a idiot.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"the guy" it's you. You both even speak german

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Ah yes speaking German = Same person?

So im like 185 Million people now or what?

Any chance you are incredibly racist besides being a antisemite?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Do… do you think only one person speaks German?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

You’re not a moderator you just prefer to lurk on the pedo content. Is that it?

[–] Butts@ani.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I posted this comment on ani.social and got banned from Lemmy.world:

Who even cares, fuck those guys.

Lemmy.world revealed how far they have their heads jammed waaaaaay up their own assholes when they released their new TOS and were patting themselves on the back about it. Then, in true Le Reddit fashion, anyone in the comments section who dared to question that decision was getting mass down voted by brainless sycophants. Lemmy.world got lucky by being the most visible and attracting the most users this past summer, but it doesn’t make them inherently special, which they clearly now believe they are.

The Fediverse is a new opportunity for internet discussion to feel free and open again rather than confined by kowtowing to corporate interests. These instances defederating from ani.social is forewarning to any users with their heads up that they are just places to avoid anyway.

Now, regardless of whether you agree with my stance or not, or if for some reason you are offended by the fuck word, is criticism of policy seriously an offense so egregious that it warrants a ban?

Of course it isn't.

And before somebody tries to cleverly point out "hurr durr you sound butthurt because you got banned from LW" that's not at all the point I am making here. I'm pointing out the sheer insecure pettiness of the administration at LW that they would get so bent out of shape from some criticism from a throwaway account that they would ban it on the spot.

Ask yourselves if you really want to make LW your home base, because I do not.

Edit: also lol at Antik, a LW admin, coming to this comments section on an alt account and arguing with people. Dozens of testy, sparring comments bordering on harassment. This is the exact immature behavior that I am calling out. He had to literally do nothing to get a win here, yet he deliberately chose to show his ass to everyone instead.

Edit 2: LW banned every user in this thread who posted a criticism of their insecurity, pettiness, irrationality and cognitive dissonance of thinking that "pictures of anime" are somehow all CSAM. They have brigaded this post - roughly 50% of the 100 comments here are from the admin or his alt literally harassing people simply because they stated they do not like LW. These are not the actions of sound-minded individuals, these are the actions of actually insane people.

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Curious that this exact comment thread looks so different on Lemmy.ca (original instance) versus how it appears on Lemmy World.

At the time of posting this, the original thread has 13 comments as opposed to the sanitized version on Lemmy World, which has 6 comments. Naturally, all of the comments critical of LW do not appear on their version.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You sure it's not just because those comments were submitted by ani.social users during the period which the instances were defederated from each other?

[–] finthechat@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's from manual bans, not defederation. Both Butts@ani.social (the parent comment in this chain) and CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org (commenter providing a critical summary of why people are upset) are banned at LW.

At the time of writing this comment, by looking at the LW modlog you can see Butts was banned 3 hours ago because "fuck those guys" and 17 hours ago CJOTheReal was banned because "LW admins are assholes."

I am guessing those ban reasons are quotes from the banned users themselves, not the actual reason why an admin personally banned them, though that hardly makes it justifiable - in fact it does the opposite by proving that LW admins actually are power tripping and banning for petty reasons.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Or you could have a look at CJOTheReal post history and see for yourself.

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

I nither of us gives a shit tbh, we just think they are power tripping like reddit mods. And Don't engage in their instance shithole. Btw at least one of the admins keeps following several users around like a creep constantly attacking the users and saying "look what they say" like anyone gives a shit...

Let's call them spezes from now on...

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because people that are banned on LW love to chime in on threads about LW with their totally sane and objective takes.

But that's why there are more comments on this thread than if you would look at this thread from LW.

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you guys are just banning everyone disagreeing with you personally and that's why people call you out for being a clownshow...

But who knows...

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nono don't deflect. Account?

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm willing to bet that's actually it, must be since you are too embarrassed to tell. Either that or something very racist

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe both maybe im you and we just pull a big one on the community here? Who knows?

Maybe i am another admin on your instance?

Maybe im just the voices in your head and you need to just fuck off to wake up?

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

LOL COOKIEJAROBSERVER is your real account. The moderator over at Loli instance burggit.moe

You're disgusting dude

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes! Of course! And where did you pull that from? Your ass?

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man CJO who you think you are fooling you pedo

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your mom but why do you ask?

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She is too old for your pedo taste

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

She can't be to old seeing you behaving like a 12 year old...

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[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world but the world is made in China...

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I quickly moved my main account to a new instance back when it was shown how more users in a single instance slowed everything down. If it ever came down to it, I would just run my own instance to be able to control what I can and cannot see instead of letting someone else choose for me.

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This is one of the biggest issues with having a large part of the user-base end up on the same instance(s).

I do fear that the Fediverse, since this problem happens on all of the federated services I've seen, is one day going to end up just like Reddit/Twitter/etc. Maybe not in the exact same fashion (hopefully), but similar in many ways.

Which is not to say that I don't appreciate the people behind these communities for all that they contribute, don't get me wrong. But we're eclipsing a precipice that is going to be difficult to come back from.

It's a tough problem, and honestly I don't know what the solution is. It's not as simple as "don't have big instances", but the current situation isn't really ideal either.

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