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I don't really use facebook anymore so couldn't care less; but so happened to log in today to change my password and saw this on my front page.

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[–] reflex_aliens@lemmy.ml 100 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Seems like a feature to me.

[–] purple@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah aunt Greta, I’m still friends with you, but it’s so weird how I can’t see your anti vax “facts”

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

That's the government censorship!

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I took a peek at my feed for the first time in years. It's all junk lol, no one I care about is posting anything

The only thing worth seeing is my local Buy Nothing group, but there are other services popping up which do something similar.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah all my actual friends are messaging me elsewhere, facebook is more like a picture dump for old people. I only use it occasionally for joining various expat groups since I move countries frequently for my job, and they are rather resourceful.

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[–] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your ad blocker is blocking posts from friends

Thank fucking god

[–] Ronnie@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My Facebook is hardly even friends these days. It's basically ads, suggested posts, and posts in groups. Maybe because none of my friends really post anymore, I dunno.

[–] Staiden@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah 1 out of 10 is a friend's post. The rest is just garbage.

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[–] M500@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Other than YouTube, I’m basically off all of these centralized social media platforms and it feels great.

I do need to occasionally use Facebook for market place and messenger for contacting business.

Basically every business operates over messenger where I live.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 15 points 1 year ago

Yes same for me, whatsapp is pretty much the only "genuine" communication channel. I only keep a presence on facebook since I have to move countries frequently for work, and the "expats in $city" groups are quite helpful to find people, and then move the discussions off-platform :-)

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm trying to encourage people to move to peertube. Not much content there, but i'll reward what intersting content I find. You should too

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[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ok but who the fuck uses Facebook?

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago

Boom boom boomers

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 16 points 1 year ago

There are a few countries where Facebook is still pretty popular. The Philippines, for example

[–] red@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Averyone who wants to have social life in my country

[–] CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Oh wow, im sorry for you.

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So this is how it will start.

First it will be a back and forth war of Anti-adblockers vs Adblockers

Then when the Anti-Adblockers start to lose, which they will, then they'll come crying to various governments with massic PAC campaigns among other insane garbage about how "Adblockers are Piracy!" and that they need to be banned.

This will not end well.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'll end well enough. People will just stop using their shitty platforms. They'll start looking for alternatives, from which there are loads, find that there are platforms that don't require ads, and go there.

Those that stay deserve the shit they get

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

You're massively overestimating the conviction of the average internet user. They'll do whatever they're told is cool to do, including visiting a site that is nothing but ads.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The thing is, if they get really stupid with it I could just go ahead and install pi hole. I haven't already because it's a bit of a fiddle on and I don't apparently don't need it yet. There's no way for the government to mandate against that, unless they actually want to ban me from owning a computer, Which obviously won't really work.

[–] SkepticElliptic 6 points 1 year ago

Pihole hasn't worked with YouTube in almost a decade. They changed their ad service to their own domain, so there isn't any way to distinguish between an ad and a regular video on the domain level that pihole uses.

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does one block a post from a friend with an ad-blocker? Do some of your friends type like shills? Is Facebook making numbers up for fun?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably made-up garbage. If they knew my ad-blocker had actually blocked a friend, I'm sure they would have found a way not to get anything blocked.

Or alternatively they are now displaying some friend's posts on the same channel normally reserved for ad networks so they are indistinguishable via software? But then it should be way more than one, unless this is some early A/B testing crap.

[–] far_university1990@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Sounds they detect adblock and then hide friends posts.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s been for a long time but not overtly. (I’ve never used it, this is someone else’s screenshot)


Facebook splitting the word "Sponsored" to bypass adblockers – r/assholedesign

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They also use all those uglified class names so you can't easily target a class to block. They're total bastards. The Facebook Purity plugin is hip to all these tricks though. There are some very dedicated and talented developers who have put in a lot of time and creativity to circumvent these assholes.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago

I'd rather have some false positives than a single unblocked ad.

[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 19 points 1 year ago
[–] milo128@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is such an insidious way to stop people from using ad blockers. It's not like facebook isn't deliberately making sure these false positives happen.

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great for the internet! More people will install an adblocker (hopefully ublock origin).

[–] ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While i like ublock and use it myself, i hope not everyone uses it! There need to be different adblockers. Same as just one browser, or one forum is vulnerable to different things, so would adblocks be.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

I agree that it's better to have multiple options. The issue with adblockers I often see is that they are adware themselves when not malware. With ublock origin, you can block contents of various types and not just ads. I prefer people having ublock origin than any bad option out there.

[–] vardogor@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why would this lead to more adblocker installs? it's a message about already having one

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like it backfired for YouTube, it will be the case for Facebook. People become aware of them through the news it generates.

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be funny if the ad blocking community just ignored this, and focused on removing FB tracking on external sites.

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[–] ByroTriz@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Good. Facebook should just die.

[–] SteveDinn@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Facebook can get fucked. They offer even less to me than YouTube.

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[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol what.. my feed is 80% ads, 15% group posts and maybe 5% friends

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So they're essentially admitting that their advertisements are indistinguishable from your friend's posts which are the actual reason you visit the site in the first place. It doesn't matter anyway anymore. Facebook has buried friends list content among absolute bullshit you have zero desire to see. I visited a while ago and 99% of what I was shown was ridiculous groups I tried to block. But there are millions of them. You can block a thousand groups and there's 999 thousand more that are just like it, waiting to take their place. Facebook is supposed to have this super algorithm that determines what users want to see. If that's the case, why are they incapable of detecting that I am actively opposed to certain types of content? Maybe they think they're going to outrage me enough to engage on this bullshit? Nah, I'll just leave. Bye, fuck-faces.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

100% of the ads i saw on facebook that i can remember were scams

[–] tmmk@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So all my “friends” are actually ads?

Guess I don’t need to use Facebook

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like all these tech companies wait to deploy this stuff at the same time.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

As soon as one has the audacity to deploy anti-consumer bullshit and the others see there's no measurable fallback, they all rush to roll out the same shit.

[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everyone should be using the Facebook addon "Facebook Purity" if they are still using the platform. I've been using it for over a decade and I can't stand using Facebook without it…

They are always a few steps ahead of Facebook and work well with other blockers.

Not only that, you can block specific parts of Facebook, not just the adverts. You can block the shorts, people you know, groups, keywords, and even whole topics.

You can change settings, like how you see your feed and it will stay changed.

Changing the font size, type, spacing in addition a bunch of color and night mode options are just icing on the cake.

In my professional opinion, it's the only way of working with that platform is not harmful to one's sanity.

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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Oh no! Anyway...

[–] Darken@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

It didn't even say please

At least try to be polite so I can politely say go f yourself

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sure there isn't, but it feels like that kind of wording should be reportable to someone

They reworded it to make it seem like it was the adblocker's fault you were losing friend posts, speaking as if the ads were a second thought

When adblockers don't actually target posts, meaning facebook would have to be the ones doing it.

[–] Rearsays@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

What a shame.

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