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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah yes, exactly what we need, more cars. Cars built out of stolen knowledge, by a hostile nation hellbent on becoming the next global hegemon. And we let them do it, happily, for the profits.

I fucking hate capitalism.

[–] cedeho@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cars built out of stolen knowledge

Genuinely interested. Can you provide some context on this?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t have a specific example at hand right now but ever since we moved to fully globalized capitalism around the end of the 90s China has pursued an explicit policy of forcing every single foreign company who wanted to produce in China to do so in collaboration, meaning they have to allow their Chinese partners access to industry secrets, patents, workflow, and so on. This obviously works well to keep short term profits up, so everyone went along with it, blindly disregarding the long term implications we have to deal with now.

The economic power of China is built on coercing western corps into sharing their developments. Also one of the reasons why chinese products were (and in many cases, still are) shoddy, inferior imitations.

[–] Longpork_afficianado@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really find it hard to empathise with a company that outsources it's manufacturing to China in order to exploit cheap labour and poor environmental protections. It feels like having your IP ripped off by the people you're exploiting in order to save a buck is fair comeuppance.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

Oh don’t get me wrong, I don’t empathize with the corps who moved our labor overseas for profits, and threw their technological advantage - their true long-term capital - after them as well, for a few years of quarterly gains. Fuck them. Shortsighted greed is the essence of capitalism.

That doesn’t make me like china’s strategy any more though. Exactly because they understand how to instrumentalize the corrupt greed of the capitalist class to their advantage are they so dangerous to us.

Our governments are powerless to protect national economic interests because they are all beholden to the short term profiteers of destroying our long term prosperity.

[–] mihies@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Hostile country? How so? What war did they start?
And you mean they want to replace the current hegemon, which yields a bloody war after another. And if not, it supports them.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course Orban seeks for new friends for when the companies of the free world are finally fed up and leave his country.

And obviously he looks for those friends in countries as authoritarian as his mindset.

At least, the Chinese won't take any of his bs and will have him obediently answering to their commands.

Now we only need to get him out of the EU, so he becomes the financial burden of the Chinese and no longer ours.

[–] pulsey@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being in the EU is the only reason why China would be interested in putting a BYD plant there.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Now, wouldn't that be a shame! Being kicked out of the EU a week before that factory's opening date...

[–] copacetic@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Any guesses which location in Hungary it might be?