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This could backfire into something Google don’t want: everyone using adblockers.
Imagine everyone installing adblockers just to skip YouTube’s obnoxious ad rolls, just to also block most Internet ads.
Suddenly, having an adblocker becomes mainstream like wearing socks.
You guys are wearing socks?!
I was curious and latest statistics show 43% of users between 16 and 24 use ad blockers. We're already at bra level of mainstreamyness.
No, it couldn't. People who didn't use adblockers aren't going to suddenly start using them just because YouTube started blocking adblockers. People who didn't use adblockers aren't impacted at all, nothing has changed for them.
Unfortunately, it means they'll move on pieces they already have in place.
They can disable ad blocking in Chrome entirely, and it probably won't kill the browser.
"Go on then, there are other browsers than these" - Jake Chambers in The Gunslinger by Stephen King
The article linked here showed a pattern of people uninstalling ad blockers on Chrome… and then turning around and installing them on Edge.
This YouTube campaign might be one of the best things that ever happened to Edge.
I don't see how? This is targeting people already using ad blockers. People not already using them should not see any difference in service so why would they change their behaviour? At most a mild rise of awareness, though I bet most people following these news stories are also already running ad blockers. It is all the other aggressive shit they are doing with ads that will turn people towards ad blockers/premium.
ublock origion, if anyone needs to know which one to use...
unlock origin
I prefer uBlock Origin myself.
Adnauseam if you want to add a layer of fuck you on top of it.
It doesn't say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let's wait and see if this increases Firefox's market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.
But people who don't use adblockers aren't the target if anti adblock stuff in the first place.
It pushed me more towards degoogling. Was already using newpipe on Android and ignoring the YouTube app, and now I'm on freetube on desktop. No need for Google account anymore to look at the feed I want.
Invidious has been a saviour for me on mobile. The ads were so painfully long. To make it worse, I’d use YouTube to help fall asleep, adjust it to the right volume, then BAM! Loud advert. I didn’t use an ad blocker on PC for ages because I get that bandwidth is expensive as hell, but they really started taking the piss and I gave up.
freetube uses Electron = Chromium ;D
The day i remove my adblocker is the day... ah who am i kidding, i will never uninstall my adblocker.
t doesn’t say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let’s wait and see if this increases Firefox’s market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.
That's literally the first thing after I install any new system.
I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.
I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.
I feel you there. I'm just about at that point, although I also need better support for music software (FL studio, VSTs, etc) and hardware before I can fully switch.
I wish there is a github FOSS script that does this for new windows builds.
Dude, thanks for this.
I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly
Sooo.... today? Sweet! Welcome to the club! :)
Sadly, Fortnite doesn't run on Linux. EAC has Linux support in general but Epic doesn't it for Fortnite...
Was one of the first things I tried on my Steamdeck after installing HeroicLauncher. Would have been nice with the gyro.
Is there a compatibility list and performance difference?
I have games that are not from steam so they will need to be able to run as well.(and games that requires their launcher, like EA/Ubisoft. Oh and some of them have denuvo.)
How about other driver functions(recording game clips, instant replay buffers) that was provided on windows drivers?
I am planning a new build(so many new hardware's) so if all above are possible and don't need some arcane knowledge (like suddenly you need to upgrade your libc and install new kernels and fuck around with driver compatibility) then consider me in.
What/where would be the guide and distro to start with?
I’m about a week off coming back to Windows from Linux.
Some things that chased me off:
I keep feeling like Linux is just a year or two away from being good enough for common folks to switch over, and I guess if all you need if Firefox, it’s probably there. But the experience is just so subtly, but consistently, bad year after year.
For reference, I was on Pop!_OS (whatever their latest stable was, I think based on Ubuntu 22?). I had read that Pop!_OS was one of the better distorts for games.
Some users are even going as far as to switch to a new browser.
As someone who changes browsers regularly on a whim, I love how big of a deal this is to the average person.
Yeah, but I'm sure a lot of people just bought youtube premium. I know my friend did...stupid idiot.
I wonder how business owners feel about their advertisements being weaponized to push people toward subscription plans that eliminate advertisements.
Google doesn't give a shit what their advertisers think. It's not a "please buy our ads" situation, it's a "where else would you advertise online, you stupid fuck?" type of situation.
People that were running ad blockers were not seeing ads and business owners were not paying for those blocked ads. So I don't see why they would care at all.
True, but people who used to be served one ad per video are now being served 4 or 5, which both lessens the value of each individual ad, and gives more incentive to get rid of them with premium
I've had YouTube premium from the inception of their subscription model prior to/at the beginning of YouTube red, as I initially had a paid Google music subscription.
Personally, there isn't a better option for the amount of hassle involved in my opinion. It's a family account, and managing so many people's YouTube experiences on at least a dozen different devices would be a nightmare I don't want to think about. (Multiple of each TV's, Roku's, Android phones, iPhones, pc's, etc)
This isn't really relevant to your friend, it is quite silly when it's just one person not willing to do it for just themselves.
Only reason they are seeing so many uninstalls is because ublock origin is the big one that works and that requires uninstalling other blockers to get it to not be detected.
Ublock origin doesn't track uninstalls but it has gained quite a few users in the last 8 days
vs
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked! Who could have seen this coming!?
Well, well, well, Google. I told you.
This is only 20% of our power. We are not even Super Saiyan yet.
And equally, Google is yet to use the big guns they have. Don't get me wrong, I hate Google with a passion, but they have way too much power over the internet for us to leave even a dent on their plans.
They have a lot of power, but that power is tied by goodwill.
Right now they are cashing in all that goodwill with price increases, more onerous privacy invasion and “sponsored” links in lieu of actually accurate search results.
Google: it’s over 9000!
It pushed me to buy grayjay which is allowing me to easily keep up with people off youtube. I just wish that grayjay had a web app.
my problem with grayjay is that it really wants to give me stuff from the trending tab even though it's supposed to be subscriptions only