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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was trying to escape beer to save money, but at $2 a can non-alcoholic is even more expensive despite seemingly less taxes needing to be paid.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My initial assumption was that it's because it's newer, ~~so they need to make up that r&d cost~~ (edit: I get why this is silly now). Once there is a lot more competition for it, the prices should come down. Similar to how some plant based meats / milks or gluten-free products became more accessible once general people started buying them instead of a tiny group that could be exploited more easily.

I'm just hoping for fewer drunk driving accidents and reduced health issues

[–] Alphadef@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh boy you are painfully optimistic about capitalism

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

fair, again I'm just hopeful that this will become a good option for people

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

That’s the nicest way to put it lol

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

R&D cost lol, there’s no such thing. That’s what companies want you to believe so they can upsell medicine and technology.

This is just another market rife for capitalism to ensnare. Some guy crunched the numbers and found that x% don’t drink at events. So to recoup that lost revenue, they made this. The drinks, the ads, the news articles that cover it. All planted to drive up their bottom line.

Because that’s how businesses work. They find an angle and swoop in and start setting up payment systems to see what people will begrudgingly pay for.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was equating them, probably incorrectly, to things like plant based meat companies that did have to consider margins till they could scale up.

But yes I guess a major conglomerate doesn't have that constraint, and it's probably not that hard to make something that tastes like X beer without alcohol

[–] rbn@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is non-alcoholic beer reallly more expensive than the regular? In Europe they're on par in most places. In Northern Europe (Norway, Denmark) it's even significantly cheaper due to taxes.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if this is a pendulum swinging, and gen z's kids will drink to excess.

Me I limit myself to one or two drinks, only in social spaces/never alone.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's interesting, I hadn't thought of that. I guess we're seeing a bit of that with smoking vs vaping, but I'd need to look at the rates more to see if that actually was like a pendulum

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Personally I had all the sobriety I could stand by the time I had my first drink. I will sober up when I die like I will catch up on my sleep. Edit: It appears that me living my life the way I want is not loved by all.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People aren't downvoting you because they disagree with your lifestyle, but your comment is like going into a thread about veganism and saying "fuck yall I'm gonna eat a cheese burger every day until I die". A valid personal decision, but not really relavent to the conversation unless you just wanted everyone to know you're different

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining this. Also apparently I am different and I don't really care whether people know or not.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t really care whether people know or not.

Going out of your way to make a comment about it is an interesting choice then lol

[–] thelazywriter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Learned a new term today: “sober curious.” I quit drinking 5 years ago, and never looked back. I wouldn’t mind some more variety for non-alcoholic drinks, especially those without sugar. Can’t have pop too often because it’s just sugar. Kombucha reminds me of beer so I avoid it. Fruit juices are full of sugar too. So it’s usually down to tea, coffee or water for me.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

lol that sounds like vocabulary only an alcoholic would invent.

"I've heard of being sober, but I'm to afraid to try it right now."

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as there's no added sugar, the fruit juices should be fine. Not all sugars are equal, and fructose is a long chain sugar so it's more like a fuse then the dynamite (glucose).

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uh.. what? This is a fructose molecule

Fructose