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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Perhaps if Europe claims to care about human rights so much, they should simply stop funding, supporting or otherwise enabling a genocidal state?

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[–] fred@lemmy.ml 33 points 11 months ago

Allowing Gazans to be made into refugees (again) is participating in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Opafi@feddit.de 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's just a dumb take... Europe took up over for million refugees from Ukraine. Because it's the neighbouring countries that should help first and foremost. Kind of like what Egypt could do now... But instead they're crying that the EU half a continent away should take care of it.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Egypt already has syrian refugees and subsaharan refugees in addition to the recent influx because of the sudanese civil war.

Either way, the current regime violently overthrew, imprisoned, tortured and eventually killed the democratically elected previous regime which has ties and many many sympathizers in Gaza. Meaning that the cocksucking son of a removed sisi will never let them in, because he's afraid of another revolution

Plus leaked talks from Mubarak (two egyptian presidents ago) literally have bibi pointing at gaza and saying i want to move them elsewhere and pointed at sinai. If Palestinians go to sinai they are never coming home.

Not to mention that ISIS is in sinai....

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

What a dickhead response, real humanitarian right there.

[–] Designate6361 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just another day of EU being proven hypocrites once again.

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Since the war in Ukraine started, the EU accepted more than four million refugees from Ukraine. Because that's what you do as the next countries.

You know what the EU didn't do? Shit on Egypt for not taking refugees from Ukraine. Because that would have been stupid, right? Right?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Was Egypt suggesting that the EU should let in more people?

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, let's just take a look at the article...

Egypt official tells Europe to take in 1m Gazans

Oh, look, it's literally in the first half of the title!

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry if this was unclear. Was Egypt suggesting that the EU should let in more people from Ukraine? Like how the EU suggested Egypt should let in more people from Palestine.

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Weil, no. But maybe because the EU already fucking does so?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But it would be pretty out of line for Egypt to tell the EU to accept more people from Ukraine, right? That's what they're getting at. The reason Egypt is annoyed by this is because their resources are being volunteered by someone else.

[–] nakal@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To move out of a country, you need to give up your possessions and you need to have some money to pay a few things on your way without being able to work.

EU, especially Germany has encoded free asylum for people who have to flee a country in their constitution. What do you want more?

Everyone is looking at Egypt and Jordan. These are the next countries that could act. But they are shitting at the EU. Well, fuck those hypocrites.

[–] JCPhoenix 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do Egypt and Jordan not already have Palestinian refugees? I know Jordan definitely does. And it's not small number; it's hundreds of thousands, maybe even a million or more. Though according to Wikipedia, at least Jordan has given most Jordanian citizenship.

With regards to Egypt, can they handle that number of refugees? 2 million Gazans? That's a lot of people. And it's not like Egypt is some super wealthy country. And the Sinai isn't exactly a great place to host 2million peolpe.

I don't think there's a single country that can readily accept that many refugees in short order, while properly feeding and housing them, and integrating them, without experiencing massive issues for both citizens and refugees.

That's not to say that it's right for Egypt to snipe at the EU, especially with a comment like that. But it's not like either country can realistically deal with additional refugees. That's part of what makes this whole thing a shitshow. There are few good options. And the few options that are good or better, people or governments refuse.

[–] b14700@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

egypt is a wreck of a dictatorship and jordan is a puppet nation propped up as a buffer for isreal , neither can do shit

[–] FaizalR@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Israel will be happy if they move.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah let's not just pretend this is an easy issue. These people can permanently give up their home and and become permanent residents in whatever country they flee to just because Israel would never let them back in.

And 1million is a lot of people to calm down and care for after their houses were bombed to rubble so the crater marked earth could be turned into a night club for tourists to the worlds largest open museum.

Egypt isn't wrong to say this is an impossible choice to make. Especially while no one can punish the bullies. Heck no one can even disagree with the bully anymore. They may be hypocrites but doesn't mean their isn't truth in it.

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Israel should take in the refugees they created, and offer them citizenship, if they are serious about this not being a genocide and only being about Hamas. It is, after all, their ancestral land.

I suspect the far-right parties like Netanyahu's Likud would never let this happen though. Netanyahu is probably quite happy Hamas committed their atrocities to give him cover for more of his own atrocities.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 6 points 11 months ago

Nah, Israleis should give them their homes back (Right to Return) and leave