@nyl Personally, I'd be going *out of my way* to disable information-leaking features like that.
#Proprietary suggestion & AI engine? No thanks.
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Models could be run offline and/or free, e.g. gpt4all, starhugger for emacs, huggingchat... Also, this is a fast-pace changing industry, we can only try and adapt using such tools at our disposal. You might use a tool or service that uses AI and don't even notice it.
Note, that GNU EMACS has an AI psychotherapist chatbot, activated using M-x doctor.
Haskell. It might be kind of an odd case though given the different ways.
I use Emacs for two reasons. Sunk cost, of course, but also the text input-methods for other natural languages. That's like the main killer feature why I don't even look at other editors. Anytime I try to type some dïäcrïtïcs into acme or whatever it's a nightmare of compose sequences or deadkeys.
Also paredit is pretty sick.
@nyl Emacs will always be worth the effort. In years to come, it will be those who learned rather than used "assistants" who will know things.
Yes, GNU Emacs is still worth it. No, VS Code is a mess.
Until the day vscode offers something like elisp, no
Why so? Do you work with lisp languages? I've been recently fiding learning [e]lisp a con since it's basically a domain specific language. Only Clojure has a bit of commercial opportunities, but even then it's better to learn JavaScript/TypeScript for its greater use cases. Also, if I wanted to play with functional programming I'd go Haskell, Lean, or even Shen.
@nyl @Dizbdeedee If you view computing as just a bunch of commercial opportunities, yes, lisp kinda sucks, but if you view computing as a discipline for expressing thoughts in a formal, understandable and efficient manner, than Clojure, Common Lisp, Racket and even Emacs Lisp are among the top languages out there and JavaScript is near the bottom a step or two above brainfuck and perl. Haskell, Lean and Shen are also very good, and all of them owe a lot to the Lisp tradition.
it's a domain specific language
Yeah, but it's very configurable and has some extensions that have really changed how I work in an editor, that I can completely change the internals for on the fly, which is not a priority for vscode
I have no strong attachment to lisp and I agree having to learn it is a con and a time sink, but I've done some small extension development for vscode and hated it
Nevermind that you already know the language when it's behind layers of api cruft and a seperate compiler, then the debugger gives you minifed javascript bleh
Commercial arguments are a thing, but a bit reductive no? How would vscode extension development help you earn a job that grinding leetcode or that specific role would be better suited for
I’ve done some small extension development for vscode and hated it
I respect your argument
Commercial arguments are a thing, but a bit reductive no?
I meant you're putting into practice a language/tech that has real and great demand than one that has little to none outside the specific domain of a text editor. Not that it automatically lands you money
@nyl
Just use whatever works for you man, no need to advocate your preferences
I'm happy that you found your new home, let's close this!
@Dizbdeedee
Lol don't take me wrong, I'm still using Emacs alongside other editors. Case closed then.
@nyl yeah I'm not against meaningful comparisons but this started turning into a flamewar which I had more than enough in the past years. ;)
peace